If she's not submissive, don't date her. Simple

[DreadBrown]

You nikkas should just choose a different word to describe these women you speak of.

'But but but thats not what submissive means'

Either that or you do want women you can control and just too p*ssy to admit it.

 

[Cabbage Patch]

My last girlfriend was submissive, and I loved it
-Cooked and cleaned to perfection
-Always cooked a hot meal for me when I came back from work
-Held my opinions with weight, and listened to my advice
-Never denied me sex cause she wanted to "teach me a lesson" or "was mad at me"
-Did every type of sexual thing under the sun, freak in the sheets
-Never got an attitude with me
-Convos always flowed smoothly. Would give great advice, without a reprimanding/condescending

To be honest, you sound confused.

1. She was all those things but you're STILL looking? If she was all of those things why was she merely a girlfriend instead of a wife?

2. Submissiveness is the insecure man's code for substitute mother. The division of roles in the household exists as a form of equalizing. Each partner provides equally according to their role.

When one partner provides in equally, there is imbalance. Just as a woman cannot expect a man to be traditional while she does her own thing -- a man cannot expect a woman to be traditional while he does his own thing.

Keeping her as your girlfriend instead of your wife is your number one sin. You needed a mom, not a submissive woman. You got one. You are a son, not a man.

3. What do you do to be a dominant man? How do bring it, in the relationship, so that there is equality between gender roles?


These things were never meant to keep men in a state of perpetual arrested development.

You can't diss feminism, when you are not taking care of business traditionally. Your story shows you are not.

Get your shyt together. Stop being a mama's boy.

 

[Action Mike]

The OP isn't encouraging women to be submissive because he dumped his ex even when she was doing everything he wanted her to do. Some of you nikkas are looking for a mother replacement that you can fukk, not a girlfriend or wife. A woman doing all that shyt as a gf is like me paying for my girlfriends bills and taking her on shopping trips every weekend and I'm not her husband.

Didn't he say he was too young to appereiate it and has learnt.

Marry every girl you meet brehs.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

I wanna know the whole story of why they broke up. I'm feeling like @UpAndComing cheated on her.

 

[Yup]

So, a woman like he described (cooks, listens, doesn't argue) does not act like an equal? How does an equal act then?




So a woman is not strong if she likes to cook, listen, and not argue?




Does what he described really sound like a servant to you? How?

How does a woman who is not a servant behave in your opinion?



@Prynce @BaldingSoHard

That girl doesn't sound like she's weak or a servant to me. She sounds traditional, mature, and not petty/argumentative.

When I think of a weak or servant woman, I think of a woman like @Thomas wife ( I think it was him). His wife stayed with him even though he cheated and got the girl pregnant and then allowed the girl to move into their home. She is now cooking and cleaning up behind herself, her kid, her husband, her husband's ex/mistress/baby's mother, and their child. I don't think she would leave him yet because she just had his baby and is a stay at home wife/mom and doesn't have any of her own money. That is what I think of when I think about a weak/servant woman.

A woman can cook, clean, take care of the children while the man works and still be equal to him. She can listen to him and he can listen to her. They can talk without arguing. Rarely getting and attitude doesn't mean that someone is weak or servant like. That's basically the type of woman he described. I don't understand what you guys are talking about. Do you all like to argue and fight frequently in your relationships? You all like that drama and think it's fun? How old are you?

No that's @benjamin

 

[Yup]

Didn't he say he was too young to appereiate it and has learnt.

Marry every girl you meet brehs.

Act like a pseudo wife to every guy you meet brehrettes.

She did too much in my opinion. How young was he and they were liVing together? It's very exhaustinformative to playing the perfect girlfriend to every man.

A woman that ain't your wife shouldn't be expected to be cooking for you as if you are her husband.

 

[Will2x]

If a woman isn't going all out in the dating phases how is it realistic to think she will once you're married? Sign a binding contact before you ever taste her cooking brehs.

 

[Maxine Shaw]

My last girlfriend was submissive, and I loved it
-Cooked and cleaned to perfection
-Always cooked a hot meal for me when I came back from work
-Held my opinions with weight, and listened to my advice
-Never denied me sex cause she wanted to "teach me a lesson" or "was mad at me"
-Did every type of sexual thing under the sun, freak in the sheets
-Never got an attitude with me
-Convos always flowed smoothly. Would give great advice, without a reprimanding/condescending tone

And what did she get in return? You?

The "last girlfriend" did all of that for you and ended up.....The last girlfriend.

Right! I can be your ex for waaaaaaay less effort than that!

 

[Draje]

I'm still confused. Why should woman submit to a man and perform wifely duties to a man that isn't her husband?

You do realize that exact same situation is called simping when men give random women the wifey benefits?

 

[Da King]

@No_bammer_weed
@s0cks

Dated for like 2 years, she was great. Just didn't work out. Maybe cause we were kinda young
I'm talking to a girl now. Same exact attributes like my ex. I'm older now, so I'm looking towards having kids and a family with her

Why "didn't work out", you described a bird with no flaws, you just get bored?

 

[wickedsm]

Submissive and weak/servant/brainless/pushover is not the same thing you guys. Idk why some of you think that it's the same thing.

I've commented on this in various threads as I am in a very traditional marriage.

The key problem with this thread (although there are other some others)

Using the word submissive always throws these condos into a tizzy.
I am not a submissive person. I am pretty aggressive.
I submit to my husband.

There's a big difference between the two.

@bdizzle touched on this earlier
You don't get to be the leader simply because you have a penis
You get to be the leader in your household and relationship because you lead

Traditional marriages require the maximum amount of trust and respect.
I trust my husband to make decisions that are best for our family.
I trust him to work hard to make sure we are provided for and we'll protected.
I respect him as a person and a partner and the leader of our family.

He trusts me to keep things running smoothly here in the house and to take care of everyone here.
He loves and respects me enough to know that the choices I make are for what's best for our family.

There's very heavy responsibility on both sides of the coin.
A traditional marriage will not work without high levels of trust respect and love.

 

[KinksandCoils]

You negroes want your wife to be a maid and a child wrapped up into one.

If you can't listen to anything your wife has to say concerning matters in the household then you don't even respect her.

Men don't need to always have the last say so cause a mans judgement isn't always right and neither is a woman's.

The reason why women in other countries and cultures submit to their husbands is more about the feeling of being scared to step out of line. It's more about fear than respect. You think women in Afghanistan and places like Iran truly want to have zero control?

You guys need to realize that women work as much as men now and make as much as men. To think your wife needs to keep shut and stay in the kitchen and cook and clean as well as raise the kids is gross. Some of you need a reality check and your lazy asses can cook and clean as well as your wife. A wife is not a maid. So tired of men saying damn . " I need a good woman who can cook and clean for me" ugh no you need a maid boo.

 

[Kenny West]

Submissive and weak/servant/brainless/pushover is not the same thing you guys. Idk why some of you think that it's the same thing.

You for trying, the concept might be lost on these nikkas. I feel like the main reason women resent traditional gender role is dumbasses who marginalize and shyt on homemakers saying stuff like slave/servant/brainless etc. IMO women would have no problem falling in line if you show the proper amount of respect. I'm really starting to feel those folks are just on the outside looking in, I'd question it but there's too much pride and self esteem at stake to get an honest answer.

I can't fathom how a woman (or anyone) with equal to higher FICO score, education, assets et. al should concede to an individual because of genitalia. Relationships are partnerships and each person compliments the other in areas of strengths and weakness with leading roles alternating for the benefit of the team (family). At least thats how my parents taught me. If a dude is shyt with money, like many are, should a business savvy woman allow him to lead finances because he is the man? If a chick boils waffles and burns microwave popcorn, like many modern women, should a Emeril Lagasse like breh give her the responsibility of nourishing the family? That doesn't compute. Gender roles are dead. And what about same sex marriages?

Bruh even same sex couples have one partner assuming the role of dominant and the other as submissive in both male or female relationships. You'll find that dynamic WAY more across all sexual orientations than you do a true 50/50 so I don't even understand why yall nikkas play yourself with this bs. As if woman can't contribute and give input while in her lane. Listen to yourselves. You talk like all wives are chained to stoves with their mouths taped shut.

First of all, I'm no ******, so don't refer to me as one.

Secondly, people have such a hard time grasping a concept. They resort to fukking extremes...like you. A dog that follows you? That's your idea of a submissive wife? That's really what I'm arguing against here? It's going to come down to you doing you but you have to wonder why divorce rates are so high, men are lacking backbones and are not leading households. Equal leadership never works especially considering the vastly different makeup of the man and woman psyche.

THIS. Like where do these nikkas get this shyt from. Even within "submission" women will still give input, question you, test you from time to time and most of all COMPLAIN. How many wives are really out here cooking, fukking, cleaning and never asserting themselves? Only folks that got it like that are dudes that beat their wives.

 

[Prodyson]

Here's what some of you don't understand about submission and its importance in marriage (because submission should be a moot point outside of marriage). And it's obvious must of you aren't married out even close to it. Two people can't equally lead one household. It doesn't make sense. They can equally respect and love one another, but not lead. Have you heard the saying "too many cooks spoils the pot"? That is because two people don't always think exactly alike. So when the two of you differ in how a situation should be handled, there's conflict and a power struggle. The two of you may have the same vision but completely different ideas on how to get there. This is what i would personally attribute to most failed marriages.

Someone has to submit. Someone has to say, "I might not necessarily do it that way, but i trust you to do it the way you see fit." There has to be a head, but that head also has to consult their companion. This isn't a dictatorship, it's a relationship. And submission isn't a one way street. Each person has to make the decision to submit to something for the better of the family. But overall, someone has to lead and the other has to submit to that leadership (to someone they trust to lead).

And like I said before, if you don't want to submit to someone, then you probably shouldn't marry them because that tells you how you really feel about them. And if you respect someone and trust their judgement completely and you still don't want to submit, you may be immature or too prideful.

 

[Kenny West]

You negroes want your wife to be a maid and a child wrapped up into one.

If you can't listen to anything your wife has to say concerning matters in the household then you don't even respect her.

Men don't need to always have the last say so cause a mans judgement isn't always right and neither is a woman's.

The reason why women in other countries and cultures submit to their husbands is more about the feeling of being scared to step out of line. It's more about fear than respect. You think women in Afghanistan and places like Iran truly want to have zero control?

You guys need to realize that women work as much as men now and make as much as men. To think your wife needs to keep shut and stay in the kitchen and cook and clean as well as raise the kids is gross. Some of you need a reality check and your lazy asses can cook and clean as well as your wife. A wife is not a maid. So tired of men saying damn . " I need a good woman who can cook and clean for me" ugh no you need a maid boo.

A modern woman on any continent is capable of living alone, so tell me why they would enter a relationship in the first place where they're under the thumb of a man soley out of fear? Why would families concede their daughters to males who only have to offer them fear?

Do feminine women only exist in iran or something? How do you explain africans, asians or eastern europeans? You sound dumb