If the NBA Cap is $58M, how can u realistically stay under it?

[tremonthustler1]

The owners really didn't think it through they let the hardline owners ( mj , spurs, suns, gilbert ) run shyt like these nikkas will follow the money. They fail to realize that a smartly run team is the only alternative to a big markets. Noone wants to sign in Charlotte when they might go into a fire sale any day . People will sign in Memphis cause they are competitive, people don't wxnt to go to Tdot/Houston who look like they running around with there heads cut off .
fukk these owners trying to own the game

Word. fukk these owners doing what their job description says

Trying to win ≠ spending a shytload of money on players...

Indiana was under the cap, and held their own against the Heat.

the quick come up is what far too many GM's lust over

And this is ultimately what small markets complain about. Indiana has done pretty much everything right, yet they're not even in the convo for a Deron Williams. OKC is arguably the best run squad right now and they can't get Dwight Howard's attention. That's what annoys teams. Free agency pretty much isn't an option for squads like that even if they have the most competent front offices. There's only one option that helps teams out and it's an option neither side wants.

 

[Mr swag]

Cap is based on income. If u have a problem with it start going to the games

 

[kidmakaveli]

58 mil for 13 guys aint bad especially with a soft cap allowing u to go over for multiple reasons. The cap is meant to go over since 90% of teams do just a benchmark to begin enforcing penalties.

the NFL salary cap is only double with 4 times as many players and its a hard cap. Thats a huge juggling act.

 

[beenz]

All the luxury tax does is subsidize teams I markets that can't support teams. It doesn't force those teams into fielding a competent roster.

And the cap don't work wih the current cbs. Look at my team. Drose is due to make almost $20m this yr. so in reality you're sposed to be able to sign the other 11 cats for like $40m. That's laughable in itself.

 

[beenz]

Cap is based on income. If u have a problem with it start going to the games

Nba has been making money hand over fist the last two years easily since the decision.

 

[Mr swag]

Nba has been making money hand over fist the last two years easily since the decision.

22 teams LOST money


I bet your the same person who thinks strippers make good money huh?

 

[tremonthustler1]

All the luxury tax does is subsidize teams I markets that can't support teams. It doesn't force those teams into fielding a competent roster.

And the cap don't work wih the current cbs. Look at my team. Drose is due to make almost $20m this yr. so in reality you're sposed to be able to sign the other 11 cats for like $40m. That's laughable in itself.

meaning on average that player would make $3.6 mil. Believe it or not, that's a lot.

 

[beenz]

22 teams LOST money


I bet your the same person who thinks strippers make good money huh?

Where's the proof on that? They never showed the books. I think they're actually cooking the books to show they're in the red. You think 22/30 billionaire businessmen that own these teams are suddenly fiscally retarded? Teams are profitable. Then they throw in funny money like stadium depreciation to show it as a loss. Well we don't believe u, we need more people.

 

[Mr swag]

Where's the proof on that? They never showed the books. I think they're actually cooking the books to show they're in the red. You think 22/30 billionaire businessmen that own these teams are suddenly fiscally retarded? Teams are profitable. Then they throw in funny money like stadium depreciation to show it as a loss. Well we don't believe u, we need more people.

the same number they gave to the IRS is cooked? The "books" is tax forms that they submitted to the government

 

[FTBS]

Trying to win ≠ spending a shytload of money on players...

Indiana was under the cap, and held their own against the Heat.

the quick come up is what far too many GM's lust over

They held their own against the Heat without Bosh and really didn't do that once Bron and Wade said "fukk it I'm tired of playing with this little nikkas."

Did you read the second half of my post? Why was Indiana under the cap? Because Hibbert and George were still on their rookie deals. Hibbert just signed a max extension and if George continues to develop like he's expected to he will likely get a max extension thusly pushing them over the cap. Not sure when Granger's contract is up but they are gonna have to pay him too. Of course they can pass on paying these nikkas in which case they fall the fukk off and then look for new rookies to take their spots and then start the process all over again. At some point in the NBA you gotta pay.

 

[dem bath salts]

the same number they gave to the IRS is cooked? The "books" is tax forms that they submitted to the government

You do know about generally accepted accounting principles right? You can make a profit look like a loss by using depreciation. It's an illusion and trick all companies use and the american tax laws uphold. Teams can deduct roster expenses two ways. shyt like loss of player contracts and player salaries.they can say shyt like Lebron is a year older, therefore he's worth less than what we originally signed him for. So let's come up with some imaginary number we believe he's costing us. The tax laws are deep. you can damn near make them say anything. Remember profit is Revenue -Expenses. And expenses can be massaged.

 

[FTBS]

58 mil for 13 guys aint bad especially with a soft cap allowing u to go over for multiple reasons. The cap is meant to go over since 90% of teams do just a benchmark to begin enforcing penalties.

the NFL salary cap is only double with 4 times as many players and its a hard cap. Thats a huge juggling act.

NFL contracts aren't guaranteed.
NFL teams aren't as dependant on individual players.

It's much easier to juggle when you aren't forced to pay guys no matter what and when losing one player isn't gonna totally destroy your team.

 

[Mr swag]

You do know about generally accepted accounting principles right? You can make a profit look like a loss by using depreciation. It's an illusion and trick all companies use and the american tax laws uphold. Teams can deduct roster expenses two ways. shyt like loss of player contracts and player salaries.they can say shyt like Lebron is a year older, therefore he's worth less than what we originally signed him for. So let's come up with some imaginary number we believe he's costing us. The tax laws are deep. you can damn near make them say anything. Remember profit is Revenue -Expenses. And expenses can be massaged.

And yes they are and they should use every angle they can as a private business. Them using every legal avenue is not cooking the books.

 

[dem bath salts]

And yes they are and they should use every angle they can as a private business. Them using every legal avenue is not cooking the books.

ok, that's fair, but it still doesn't mean there are losing REAL money. These are some of the most astute business men in the country. Nobody continues to operate a business at a loss. that's economic suicide. that's how you know their spewing bullshyt and its smoke and mirrors. If they were truly losing money like they claim, nba teams would start being contracted or abandoned with the quickness. Their whole angle as owners is just to a larger slice of the pie than the players. So they hit the public with sob stories about how their really losing money.

 

[Mr swag]

ok, that's fair, but it still doesn't mean there are losing REAL money. These are some of the most astute business men in the country. Nobody continues to operate a business at a loss. that's economic suicide. that's how you know their spewing bullshyt and its smoke and mirrors. If they were truly losing money like they claim, nba teams would start being contracted or abandoned with the quickness. Their whole angle as owners is just to a larger slice of the pie than the players. So they hit the public with sob stories about how their really losing money.

bruh the NO was abandoned and couldn't resell till the new CBA was made