what a sad/entertaining discussion
If we are pro choice, we should be anti child support
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DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
I said laws were for the betterment of society. Slavery was not for the betterment of society, just the detriment. Unjust laws are not "laws"
Making men support their children is not a detriment of society. Women have control over their bodies is not a detriment to society.
In any fashion: Laws aren't meant to subsidized the consequences of human mistakes/ignorance
Sierra Mist
Banned
Whoa. I know Halloween is coming but damn. I think we are going to have a shortage of scarecrows.
Both men and women know the consequences of sex. I actually say if you don't want kids to not have sex at all. The point I was making was the fact that at the end of the day, when all is said and done, the woman ULTIMATELY has the final say in whether a child is born or not so with that ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility.
My point was that women can opt out of being a parent but men can't without having to pay child support for 18 years. If a woman says "I don't want to be a mother" she has the power to not be a mother by terminating the pregnancy. shyt women can even kill their children and get away with it. Who the fukk is Casey Anthony? If a man says "I don't want to be a father" he's either obligated to pay child support for a kid that the mother might not even allow him to see OR go to jail.
Both are wrong in the sense that if you didn't want a baby, don't have sex. I don't even think anyone is denying that it takes two to tango. What is being discussed here is not the ability to have sex. It's the ability to opt out of parenthood after the sex has occurred.
I'm most certainly NOT absolving deadbeats.
Both men and women know the consequences of sex. I actually say if you don't want kids to not have sex at all. The point I was making was the fact that at the end of the day, when all is said and done, the woman ULTIMATELY has the final say in whether a child is born or not so with that ultimate power comes ultimate responsibility.
My point was that women can opt out of being a parent but men can't without having to pay child support for 18 years. If a woman says "I don't want to be a mother" she has the power to not be a mother by terminating the pregnancy. shyt women can even kill their children and get away with it. Who the fukk is Casey Anthony? If a man says "I don't want to be a father" he's either obligated to pay child support for a kid that the mother might not even allow him to see OR go to jail.
Both are wrong in the sense that if you didn't want a baby, don't have sex. I don't even think anyone is denying that it takes two to tango. What is being discussed here is not the ability to have sex. It's the ability to opt out of parenthood after the sex has occurred.
I'm most certainly NOT absolving deadbeats.
The premise of this thread is that men should have the same rights as women when it comes to childbirth, meaning he can make her get an abortion or walk out on the baby. What would you change the law to?so much strawmanning going on. show me one poster in here who said men should be able to force abortions on someone?
i advocate for women searching for men with mutual love and respect for them. not fukking dudes because they see a meal ticket.
I advocate women doing the same, but i also advocate men being responsible. This meal ticket shyt is some on tv shyt. The average baby momma/daddy is broke and fukked up. Ain't nobody benefiting from being a single parent
so if that's the premise, you shouldn't have a hard time finding ONE poster that's said men should be able to force women to get abortions.
DrunkenNovice
Superstar
Casey Anthony didn't do it, but I like your point.
No one has explicitly said "men should be able to force abortions" but what does you law imply:
Men should be able to tell a woman that if she decides to have the baby then he ain't doin shyt for her or the baby. So if this law were implemented, the outcome would either be more deadbeat dads or more abortions. How is this a good thing?
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Married families breh?? You know its 2012 right??... Yea im really trying to marry some bytch that I met at a club and knocked up cuz the condom bust
DaChampIsHere
Survive the drought
You are arguing with men who say that the black community is a matriarchy (and are mad about it), yet need the same women to lead them to not having sex.
Leave it alone. If they aren't trolling, they they're just stupid.
DrunkenNovice
Superstar
Funny thing about this thread is I asked myself the same question because of an amendment thats on the ballot here
So either get a vasectomy or quit fukking bytches from the club. You know anytime you have sex there is a chance of pregnancy, you know the consequences of unwanted pregnancies, so why continue to put yourself in that position.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Everthing in this post is correct..
Now what are the consequences for the women??
Abortion, childbirth, being a single parent.
