If we are pro choice, we should be anti child support

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Abortion, childbirth, being a single parent.

You confuse choice with consequences sir... the only consequense(besides std's) is getting pregnant...

And you seem to think a lot of these women aint happy to just collect child support and whatever government assistance.

Women are hardley being held accountable, but men really have no choice but to take full responsbility... No choice is the key words
 

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shyt is fukked up when you think about it...
 

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I'm not sure if some of the nikkas that post here are actual nikkas! And no I'm not talking bout sierra mist :leostare:

Ahh, ad hominems. If we want to go that route, why is that the same dudes that admittedly have social problems and who always have problems with women always have the most problems with women being able to make choices.

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You confuse choice with consequences sir... the only consequense(besides std's) is getting pregnant...
If it is a woman's choice to have a baby, it's the mans choice to sleep with and impregnate her. The consequences come in when they both have to deal with that child.

And you seem to think a lot of these women aint happy to just collect child support and whatever government assistance.

You seem to watch too much tv. In real life women aren't running around getting pregnant for $300 worth of foodstams. And do you really think the irresponsible nikka that got her pregnant is going to be responsible enough to keep a job and pay child support. Like i said before, nobody benefits from unwanted children.

Women are hardley being held accountable, but men really have no choice but to take full responsbility... No choice is the key words
The choice a woman gets is whether to abort the baby or not. If she chooses to abort the baby, then both parents avioided the consequences, if she chooses to have the baby, then they both have to deal with the consequences. You are correct that choice is left up to the woman to make, but as a man knowing you can't make that choice, you should take control of the choice you do have, which is getting her pregnant in the first place.

Raising a child with help or not IS being held accountable. Point is when a child comes in this world it is the responsibility of both parents to take care of that kid period. Actually men are getting off easy by paying child support. Child support can't take more than a third your salary, I live with my kids and they get more than 2/3 of my income plus they get 100% of my time and attention. A single mother has to make up for two parents in time and attention AND she has to spend most of her money on the kids. The father just has to send a check every month.
 
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Ahh, ad hominems. If we want to go that route, why is that the same dudes that admittedly have social problems and who always have problems with women always have the most problems with women being able to make choices.

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I have no social problems my dude! Nor do I have with women rights! Show me where have I ever advocate that! My issue is with the concept of abortion itself. I dont believe no one has the right to terminate human life at its creation stage be it male or female. I am flexible when legitimate reasons such as health or rape issues exist but that is it.
 
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Ahh, ad hominems. If we want to go that route, why is that the same dudes that admittedly have social problems and who always have problems with women always have the most problems with women being able to make choices.

:ohh:

Also I have never advocate the idiotic ideas that men should be given the right to opt out of parenthood. Accept the consequences of your actions that's for both men and women
 

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I have no social problems my dude! Nor do I have with women rights! Show me where have I ever advocate that! My issue is with the concept of adoption itself. I dont believe no one has the right to terminate life be it male or female. I am flexible when legitimate reasons such as health or rape issues exist but that is it.

I agree with this point, but there are plenty things that are legal that i think are wrong, and Im sure i do plenty of things that others would consider wrong.

If abortions should be illegal, leaving your sperm in a napkin or condom should be illegal as well. You are in effect canceling life. Same as abortion. People will never advocate taking the law this far because they love sex.
 
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I agree with this point, but there are plenty things that are legal that i think are wrong, and Im sure i do plenty of things that others would consider wrong.

If abortions should be illegal, leaving your sperm in a napkin or condom should be illegal as well. You are in effect canceling life. Same as abortion. People will never advocate taking the law this far because they love sex.

Dude I'm not here to legislate morality. Nut in a condom is not life. :beli:

U reaching for straws here.

What is fact is that 18 days upon procreation there is a heartbeat therefore there is LIFE!

Ok so I'm gone break it down! Nut in a rag is trash and a embryo developing inside a woman with a heart beat is life
 

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Dude I'm not here to legislate morality. Nut in a condom is not life. :beli:

U reaching for straws here.

What is fact is that 18 days upon procreation there is a heartbeat therefore there is LIFE!

Ok so I'm gone break it down! Nut in a rag is trash and a embryo developing inside a woman with a heart beat is life

Nut is a living being and more viable outside the human body than an 18 day embryo.
 
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