if you added 98 Lil Wayne and Turk to 98 No Limit Records...

[Wacky D]

people are forgetting that most of the south ran with turk's flow. master p being one of the main ones running with it. he wouldve definitely been rockin with turk.

wayne had alot of bone thug influence in him back in the day. P & silkk wouldve took a liking to him. he wouldve been doing more songs like "clear da set" and lacing hooks for silkk/mystikal collabos.

with that said, thats multiple standout placements for both of them on albums by the 3 biggest artists on the label.

in terms of hierarchy, they would get lost in the shuffle, but there was definitely a place for them as roleplayers; especially if they stayed together as a duo. and them both being young would be a plus. that way, silkk wouldnt be stuck at 18 for 4 years. they would even get an album out by early '99 at least.. it would be an un-polished mess tho. 22 tracks of mess. they needed the grooming they got at cash money.

 

[Alvin]

Eh they fit better on Cash Money they would've been lost in the shuffle on No Limit

I think Mac and Soulja Slim would've been better on Cash Money than No Limit

Turk could've been more popular than what he was but he fukked himself over

Yeah this only works if mac and Soulja slim go to CMR, no limit had too many artist and Turk and Wayne wouldn’t add anything

 

[Alvin]

Hell nah, come on. Hot Boys were better rappers/artists than P, Silkk, Skull, Hound, Gambinos, Prime Suspects (Uzi was underrated, RIP), Kane & Abel, Serv On, Big Ed, Ghetto Commission (Holloway n Spade were nice), Steady Mobb'n for sure

After that it's personal preference. Mac, Fiend, Mia, Slim n Mystikal are among the best rappers out NO ever

I don’t think hot boys would out rap Kane and Abel. I would like to seen them over more varied production (BBTP) compared to one producer (mannie)

 

[Alvin]

Don't think P would have put them as solo artists, I could see them being in a group together.

Beats By The Pound beats wouldn't have registered well with Turk in my opinion. I still today haven't heard them rap over a BBTP beat (I am not 100% sure about this)

Mannie production brought out the worse artist because of the bass guitar and Mannie strings, most of Turk's best verses came off production with 'strings' and bass guitars riffs.

BBTP wasn't really heavy on the same sounds that Mannie used which was (to me) made BBTP production a much more darker, heavy (in a sense) production which catered more on your gangsta rappers.

Slim was a better fit for KL than Mannie, Slim was a gangsta rapper who wasn't about "polish" I think of Mannie production more so "polish" than BBTB production. More of a scrappy, edgy sounds, dark at times.

But nah I don't think it would have worked for them on NL

I said this before, BBTP production really sounds like primitive trap music (drumma boy, dj Paul/juicy j, dj squeaky, zaytoven, shawty redd) type production compared to mannie who used a hell of a lot more live instrumentation. Mannie sounded like mardi gras rap music, BBTP more of what we know of southern music.

Good write up

 

[Alvin]

I also wonder how it would've been if they kept Bulletproof around what would've happened with Turk

I always liked the tracks Bulletproof was on



The only track with all 5 Hot Boys on it

lil Derrick was dope, but him, Wayne and Turk sounded too much alike.

 

[Alvin]

Fresh production >> BBTP

Nah BBTP were more varied bc of the 5 people in the group.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

Man this nikka full himself.. nikka said CMR blew up the south.. Y'all got your deal based on No Limits success.. If they came out with that HA shyt first nobody up here would have listened to that shyt..

Many don't realize that the Big Tymers were the 1st album off that deal. They re-released How You Luv That and added a few more songs, that album was released off that deal and then 400 degrees came out.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

its a touchy topic. people get flashbacks of intense lunchroom table debates.

its inevitable.

Breh.

It use to be an all out war in them lunch-rooms, bus ride homes etc. Lol

 

[NO-BadAzz]

people are forgetting that most of the south ran with turk's flow. master p being one of the main ones running with it. he wouldve definitely been rockin with turk.

wayne had alot of bone thug influence in him back in the day. P & silkk wouldve took a liking to him. he wouldve been doing more songs like "clear da set" and lacing hooks for silkk/mystikal collabos.

with that said, thats multiple standout placements for both of them on albums by the 3 biggest artists on the label.

in terms of hierarchy, they would get lost in the shuffle, but there was definitely a place for them as roleplayers; especially if they stayed together as a duo. and them both being young would be a plus. that way, silkk wouldnt be stuck at 18 for 4 years. they would even get an album out by early '99 at least.. it would be an un-polished mess tho. 22 tracks of mess. they needed the grooming they got at cash money.

I would say that was more so of a Pimp Daddy flow, that Turk got from the 1st generational CMR artists, the harmonizing over bars, Soulja Slim was a stickler for using that flow. It's a NOLA cadance. TC Tucker etc DJ Jimi, UNLV all used that flow in their bars.

Early P, I don't think I heard him really use it...96-98, TRU, I didn't hear it from any NL artists with the exception of Mia, she would harmonize/drag a few of her bars (I love when she did it)

She did it on her verse on Hot Boys, Hot Girls


Turk did though, stayed consistent with his.


I can't see Slim really rapping about "flossing" on every other record, at one time, many folks/rappers were complaining saying that was all that CMR artists rapped about, flossing.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I said this before, BBTP production really sounds like primitive trap music (drumma boy, dj Paul/juicy j, dj squeaky, zaytoven, shawty redd) type production compared to mannie who used a hell of a lot more live instrumentation. Mannie sounded like mardi gras rap music, BBTP more of what we know of southern music.

Good write up

KLC used more of drums, tenor, bass was his go to, 808 kicks. His production was good for folks who rode around in their cars/trucks with 6 12's, 4 12's type setup in their whip

Fresh production was more heavy with the guitar riffs and snares, strings, melodies, build ups throughout the production, See Rich nikkas Juvie verse, build up, See Playa Why you Hating, Juvie verse build up.

You can hear alot of things in Fresh production, different little sounds.

Just the other day, I heard a "knocking/tap cadance" in that Back That Ass Up, right after his part, and I never knew that part was in there, It doesn't appear nowhere in that song but at that part.

just my opinion

I enjoy these threads

I think back over that time on how things were when both of these companies were active 97-98 was a great year for the south.

 

[NO-BadAzz]

I also wonder how it would've been if they kept Bulletproof around what would've happened with Turk

I always liked the tracks Bulletproof was on



The only track with all 5 Hot Boys on it

Rank your favorite verse from Spitting Game??

I always wanted to know who ppl thought had the best verse on this song...The shyt change for me every time I listen to this song.

Everybody ate on this song.

No hook, just str8 bars

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Rank your favorite verse from Spitting Game??

I always wanted to know who ppl thought had the best verse on this song...The shyt change for me every time I listen to this song.

Everybody ate on this song.

No hook, just str8 bars

Honestly I'd have to say Wayne. He ate that MFer but they all killed it though.

 

[Wacky D]

that spit-n game song

1. bullet
2. BG
3. juvi
4. wayne
5. turk

CLASSIC
everybody killed it

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Cash Money was always fire when it came to the posse cuts



Gizzle was 15/16 spitting like this. He bodied this hoe

Tec-9, Kilo, and Yella came hard too

Kilo-G would've been a problem had he not been killed. His album The Bloody City is nice

Sidenote: UNLV's Uptown 4 Life might be the most slept on album in the CMR catalog.

 

[Wacky D]

Sidenote: UNLV's Uptown 4 Life might be the most slept on album in the CMR catalog.

UNLV was kinda wack. they woulvde never made it past new orleans.