If you are a Black American and don't agree with these deportations come in here and make your case.

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This is what y'all conservatives do. I do believe immigration is an issue, there are ways that they affect us and there are ways that they benefit us. Your failure to realize that is troubling for a dude who i consider educated. Regulating immigration should be a priority, there are plenty of ways to do that shyt. This ain't it. You nikkas ain't being honest with yourselves. Y'all just enjoy seeing somebody else suffer. Nobody in here is pleading for the ones who do foul shyt. They are snatching people up BEFORE THEIR HEARINGS who are going thru the process the right way. Just admit you enjoy watching the harmless ones get punished too. I don't fukk with that shyt for any group of people and I think it's some foul shyt.

I feel like that about Israel and that is self explanatory, legitimately earned.

I'm not no fukkin liberal dawg. Kill that shyt. I ain't nothing like a liberal and I don't identify with a fukkin political ideology. That is some cornball shyt that didn't exist amongst regular everyday conversation before Trump. My ideology would register closest to a progressive. shyt, an aggressive progressive if you wanna add some detail. You nikkas are being dishonest with yourselves about your cruelty. Yall are better off just saying fukk Mexicans I don't like them instead of trying to justify all the illegal shyt this administration is doing.
I am not a conservative for one. I am an Independent. I call out conservatives and liberals on their BS. That is why I told you that you are a mirror image of them. The same sort of actions you do, they do.

Also, who said I am supporting Trump in this. Just because I am not willing to rush out and support illegals does not mean I am supporting Trump in his actions either. Not every enemy of my enemy is my friend. They are not an ally of my people, and the new nazis in the White house are not allies of my people either. I recognize the multi-front battle we have to deal with as Black people, and I see how foolish it is to let enemies into your house just because you are scared of another enemy.

As for your claim that you are not a Liberal, so be it. So as your own person, you are still a mirror image of what you claim you hate, just judging by your actions. What ever that is you consider yourself, your actions are mirroring those you claim to hate. While you feel you are doing what is right, and I can understand that, as another Black American I am trying to help you see that the position you are taking also harms many of our people. Our people are harmed by illegal immigration, this has been known since before Coretta Scott King went to Congress to fight against it, that I linked to once before on on this site. It continues to harm our people, as shown in the reports to Congress I have placed on this board twice in previous threads on the issue too. If none of that can convince you to consider the wellbeing of your own ethnicity over the wellbeing of people who could not care one iota about us, then I don't think anything will.
 

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I don't agree. Period. Any nikka that agrees with hard working immigrants being deported then I can't wait to see you hoe ass picking cherries in 90 degree weather for 7.50$ an hour.

Nebraska is going bankrupt because damn near 60% of their work force were immigrants, all the farms and shyt up there were worked by immigrants. You stupid nikkas want to crash the whole country or do you stupid nikkas want to do those jobs for 5.50$ an hour? Which one is it? (Not directed at the op)

You can have programs like temporary agricultural workers that just come during the picking season and go back home when it's not.
 

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I did though in my first sentence. Why else would I have mentioned about her being worried about them being taken away if they were legal?

I have a niece who this decision effects, so of course I’m going to play that card.
Then I am sorry for her plight, but that is not a Black American concern then. If she is here illegal, then she is here illegal. If she is married to a citizen, she can work on that. I undersand your concern and have no problem with it. It is not ours though, and for me personally my concern is more about dealing with things that are Black American issues.
 

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Then I am sorry for her plight, but that is not a Black American concern then. If she is here illegal, then she is here illegal. If she is married to a citizen, she can work on that. I undersand your concern and have no problem with it. It is not ours though, and for me personally my concern is more about dealing with things that are Black American issues.
You speak for yourself and will do the same.
 

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Ok, just wanted to know where you were coming from. It is a valid question, considering how many on this website are not Black Americans whom are trying to convince Black Americans to support an issue that harms Black Americans.
I just so happen to have a niece (born here) who is part Hispanic and whose family is illegal, so yes I feel a certain way about the situation as this affects her and by me extension as well.
 

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I just so happen to have a niece (born here) who is part Hispanic and whose family is illegal, so yes I feel a certain way about the situation as this affects her and by me extension as well.
I understand that now. I asked before if her the mother was married to a citizen, because she can then work on it from that aspect. Still, while the issue is a family issue for you, I do not consider it an overall Black American issue. You are close to it, by dent of marriage. So your position is understandable.
 

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I understand that now. I asked before if her the mother was married to a citizen, because she can then work on it from that aspect. Still, while the issue is a family issue for you, I do not consider it an overall Black American issue. You are close to it, by dent of marriage. So your position is understandable.
It is though based on the simple fact that they're going to come after us next unless you actually believe that they're just going to stop at illegals.

Do you really believe that they wouldn't turn their attention to us?
 

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It is though based on the simple fact that they're going to come after us next unless you actually believe that they're just going to stop at illegals.

Do you really believe that they wouldn't turn their attention to us?
Here we go with this BS. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on this issue, because it is close to your family. Now you are trying the same old BS of "We are next" when our people are historically always first. They always have their attention on us. Seriously, you said you are a Black American, do you not know this from our own history? Have you not studied our history at all?
 

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Here we go with this BS. I gave you the benefit of the doubt on this issue, because it is close to your family. Now you are trying the same old BS of "We are next" when our people are historically always first. They always have their attention on us. Seriously, you said you are a Black American, do you not know this from our own history? Have you not studied our history at all?
This regime doesn't give a fukk about history and everyday trying to strip the basic rights of American people including us. They're literally they don't give a damn about the laws and procedures in place.

If you choose to live willfully ignorant and naive in believing they wouldn't and won't do the same to us, then that's on you.
 

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This regime doesn't give a fukk about history and everyday trying to strip the basic rights of American people including us. They're literally they don't give a damn about the laws and procedures in place.

If you choose to live willfully ignorant and naive in believing they wouldn't and won't do the same to us, then that's on you.
The Regime came at us first with DEI, even though it helped White women more, they assumed it was helping Black people. The regime is coming at us with the new Budget they are putting in. The Regime has been coming at us through the Supreme Court, attacking the Votings Rights laws. The Regime has already been going at us long before they started going after illegals.

This idea that we are next is silly and really quite frankly fearmongering. We have always been first. Last hired, first fired. Over 100k Black women fired just last month. Black names being erased from history, black men being removed from positions of authority in the military branches. Please again, tell me how we are next?

No, I also will not accept one enemy just because of a problem with another enemy. That is something you are willing to do. Illegals are not Black American allies. Heck, many of them have racist names for Black people.
 

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The Regime came at us first with DEI, even though it helped White women more, they assumed it was helping Black people. The regime is coming at us with the new Budget they are putting in. The Regime has been coming at us through the Supreme Court, attacking the Votings Rights laws. The Regime has already been going at us long before they started going after illegals.

This idea that we are next is silly and really quite frankly fearmongering. We have always been first. Last hired, first fired. Over 100k Black women fired just last month. Black names being erased from history, black men being removed from positions of authority in the military branches. Please again, tell me how we are next?
We’re talking deportations are we not? Again I ask you, do you really think regime is going to stop at deporting illegals and won’t turn attention elsewhere? Again, you can choose to live in your reality and I will do the same.

I’m not going to sit here and champion deportation and ICE raids with the MAGA using their same talking points knowing damn well they don’t want me here either.
 

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You are being myopic. By getting rid of these illegal Immigrants you open up a job market for Americans and since Americans have standards, those who seek employment would demand liveable wages and health insurance which these owners would have to supply due to their businesses failing.

Everyone else that talks about this issue, skates around the actual probelm. Not only is it relatively simple for illegal immigrants to get into our country, they have plethora of support systems that make it easy for them to stay.

For example, our business laws are flimsy they don't often require proof of citizen for people to start businesses. That gives illegals access to TINs which opens a door to shytload of legal cover they shouldn't have. Illegals don't write or enforce these laws.

And the employers who hire illegals are often not required to prove their worker's citizenship status. Illegals don't write or enforce these laws.

I could go on and on about how our society actively supports illegal iimmigration, despite what fascists are saying. Some of them even employ illegal immigrants.


Hunting illegal immigrants is a accomplishes 2 things.

- It wastes money, drugs war style (a system that supports illegal immigration). We do not have the resources or manpower to comb through millions of people, looking for their papers. Unless we're willing to go all the way like actual nazis.

- It turns the populace againsf each other and the government. The nazis is sending masked goons to snatch people out of their homes and he's threatening to send in the army to back them up. We have Rights on the Bill of Rights that were created as a response to similar British action. No wonder people are protesting.

We will never get rid of illegal immigration. We will never make a significant dent in removing the illegals that are here. We can make America a hostile country for people who employee and provide services to illegal immigrants, financially and legally. But that hurts business. Its easier to keep locking up the pill pushers on the streets than the chemical facilities who keep "misplacing" shipments.

He really does not care about that. He just wants to support them, because he feels it is right. What happens to Black Americans is not a concern of his. If he is not Black American, his position does not bother me at all. I in fact expect it from non-Black American ethnicities.
I clowns kill me with this bullshyt. My Blackness is suspect because I'm against white supremacy. I don't have roots in this country because I enjoy seeing white supremacists lose. I bet I'm one of the few people on this board that can account for the ships some of my ancestors arrived on, black and white. The same ones this ws nation is trying call immigrant workers or outright ignore in school curriculums.

Everything these ws do is always at the expense of my people so I will always be their opposition. You c00ns got a problem, suck my dikk.
 
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