If you are a Black American and don't agree with these deportations come in here and make your case.

[Uachet]

Everyone else that talks about this issue, skates around the actual probelm. Not only is it relatively simple for illegal immigrants to get into our country, they have plethora of support systems that make it easy for them to stay.

For example, our business laws are flimsy they don't often require proof of citizen for people to start businesses. That gives illegals access to TINs which opens a door to shytload of legal cover they shouldn't have. Illegals don't write or enforce these laws.

And the employers who hire illegals are often not required to prove their worker's citizenship status. Illegals don't write or enforce these laws.

I could go on and on about how our society actively supports illegal iimmigration, despite what fascists are saying. Some of them even employ illegal immigrants.


Hunting illegal immigrants is a accomplishes 2 things.

- It wastes money, drugs war style (a system that supports illegal immigration). We do not have the resources or manpower to comb through millions of people, looking for their papers. Unless we're willing to go all the way like actual nazis.

- It turns the populace againsf each other and the government. The nazis is sending masked goons to snatch people out of their homes and he's threatening to send in the army to back them up. We have Rights on the Bill of Rights that were created as a response to similar British action. No wonder people are protesting.

We will never get rid of illegal immigration. We will never make a significant dent in removing the illegals that are here. We can make America a hostile country for people who employee and provide services to illegal immigrants, financially and legally. But that hurts business. Its easier to keep locking up the pill pushers on the streets than the chemical facilities who keep "misplacing" shipments.


I clowns kill me with this bullshyt. My Blackness is suspect because I'm against white supremacy. I don't have roots in this country because I enjoy seeing white supremacists lose. I bet I'm one of the few people on this board that can account for the ships some of my ancestors arrived on, black and white. The same ones this ws nation is trying call immigrant workers or outright ignore in school curriculums.

Everything these ws do is always at the expense of my people so I will always be their opposition. You c00ns got a problem, suck my dikk.

I did not say you were not Black, I said you are not Black American. Did you not admit that already before. Also, your homosexuality nonwithstanding, you can support what you want to support. Just that if you do not care one iota about what harms Black Americans, no matter how much factual information is presented via experts in the field, and you happen to be Black American yourself, then you are unfortunately the c00n.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

fukk Trump he's a racist POS but the deportations are a positive.

Definitely get these Indians out

 

[Uachet]

We’re talking deportations are we not? Again I ask you, do you really think regime is going to stop at deporting illegals and won’t turn attention elsewhere? Again, you can choose to live in your reality and I will do the same.

I’m not going to sit here and champion deportation and ICE raids with the MAGA using their same talking points knowing damn well they don’t want me here either.

We are talking about the claim that "We are next". We are never next, because we are first.

Also, now you are stating that the reason you will not support it is because of MAGA, before it was the worry about your niece. The worry over the niece is valid in my opiinion, if it is true. The idea that we should support one enemy just because they are being harmed by another enemy, an enemy that they voted for at a far higher rate than we did mind you, is asinine to me.

I will go out on a limb and state, no one in my Black American family (including extended) will be deported when the next election comes around in 2028. We will all be here still, who are citizens of this country. So we will see who is right. One thing I will not do is rush to defend a group who do not care one iota for my people over a fear about an issue that they would not care about if it happened to us.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

We are talking about the claim that "We are next". We are never next, because we are first.

Also, now you are stating that the reason you will not support it is because of MAGA, before it was the worry about your niece. The worry over the niece is valid in my opiinion, if it is true. The idea that we should support one enemy just because they are being harmed by another enemy, an enemy that they voted for at a far higher rate than we did mind you, is asinine to me.

I will go out on a limb and state, no one in my Black American family (including extended) will be deported when the next election comes around in 2028. We will all be here still, who are citizens of this country. So we will see who is right. One thing I will not do is rush to defend a group who would do not care one iota for my people over a fear about an issue that they would not care about if it happened to us.

I have different reasons for not supporting it. You do know there’s more than one correct answer or reason. My niece being the main one.

I’m not going to sit here and champion these deportations knowing good and damn well the people initiating them and partaking in the raids view me the same as well and the fact that I’m a black American don’t mean shyt as they don’t even we should even be here in the first place. You keep bringing that up like that actually matters to this current regime when they’ve made it entirely clear it doesn’t.

You can have your own viewpoints and I will do the same.

 

[DonB90]

This regime doesn't give a fukk about history and everyday trying to strip the basic rights of American people including us. They're literally they don't give a damn about the laws and procedures in place.

If you choose to live willfully ignorant and naive in believing they wouldn't and won't do the same to us, then that's on you.

Explain to me how my Black azz can help people this fukking stupid

 

[Uachet]

I have different reasons for not supporting it. You do know there’s more than one correct answer or reason. My niece being the main one.

I’m not going to sit here and champion these deportations knowing good and damn well the people initiating them and partaking in the raids view me the same as well and the fact that I’m a black American don’t mean shyt as they don’t even we should even be here in the first place.

You can have your own viewpoints and I will do the same.

I don't champion them either. I also though, won't fight against them. I know how illegal immigration harms a large portion of my ethnicity. While I live well, I know many of my people have to compete with the illegals for jobs that would pay a living wage, if forced to hire citizens. So no, I am not going to jump up and fight for illegals at the detriment of my own people.

I instead will do as that chinese actor in the movie stated about the MUTOs and Godzilla, "Let them fight!". It is not my fight, not my issue, they can fight their own battles. I believe we Black Americans have our own issues we need to be focusing on first. Now your issue is different, because it is a family issue, but what it is not is an over all Black American ethnicity issue as you are trying to claim it is.

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

@DetroitEWarren

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I don't champion them either. I also though, won't fight against them. I know how illegal immigration harms a large portion of my ethnicity. While I live well, I know many of my people have to compete with the illegals for jobs that would pay a living wage, if forced to hire citizens. So no, I am not going to jump up and fight for illegals at the detriment of my own people.

I instead will do as that chinese actor in the movie stated about the MUTOs and Godzilla, "Let them fight!". It is not my fight, not my issue, they can fight their own battles. I believe we Black Americans have our own issues we need to be focusing on first. Now your issue is different, because it is a family issue, but what it is not is an over all Black American ethnicity issue as you are trying to claim it is.

That‘s essentially what you’re doing by criticizing the people speaking out against it.

The first question you literally asked me as am I a black American.

 

[Vandelay]

We are talking about the claim that "We are next". We are never next, because we are first.

This argument is irrelevant here. I'm not sure why you continue to bring it up.

 

[Uachet]

That‘s essentially what you’re doing by criticizing the people speaking out against it.

The first question you literally asked me as am I a black American.

No, I am speaking out against the people stating Black Americans must support them. That is different. You can speak against it as much as you desire. That is a personal decision. What I am stating is that the issue is not a Black American issue.

Yes, I asked if you were Black American to see where you are coming from on this issue. I made that clear also in a follow up post. If you were not Black American, I would then not really care about your position on what Black Americans should be doing about this issue. If you are, I then I would give your position some consideration, as I did because of you having family involved in this issue.

So critizize away at what Trump is doing. I can also state that the issue does not concern Black Americans, and let two enemy forces fight each other.

 

[Uachet]

This argument is irrelevant here. I'm not sure why you continue to bring it up.

Explain why it is irrelevant? Please, I want to read this.

Edit: Keep in mind in your explaination that the ones who stated "We are next" were the ones I am arguing agaist.

 

[Vandelay]

Explain why it is irrelevant? Please, I want to read this.

Edit: Keep in mind in your explaination that the ones who stated "We are next" were the ones I am arguing agaist.

Because while black folk usually are first and even if you think they were subject to this particular violation first, I don't know why you or anyone else thinks this isn't going to proliferate.

It doesn't have to be deportation. It can be incarceration without due process. We're now in the age of AI where public sentiment is about to get destroyed because people lack critical thinking and proofreading skills. They already think black people; black Americans are inherently the most violent people on earth, Trump told them to build more prisons, Tom Homan said wait until we see what happens next, Stephen Miller is the architect of the Muslim ban and kids in cages.

Not sure why y'all can be so knowledgeable about history, but not have any foresight into things can always get worse.

Even if you have no empathy for illegal immigrants or even Hispanics in general... he's doing this to citizens and protected people. There won't be due process for anyone if he's ignoring that now.

 

[Uachet]

Because while black folk usually are first and even if you think they were subject to this particular violation first, I don't know why you or anyone else thinks this isn't going to proliferate.

It doesn't have to be deportation. It can be incarceration without due process. We're now in the age of AI where public sentiment is about to get destroyed because people lack critical thinking and proofreading skills. They already think black people; black Americans are inherently the most violent people on earth, Trump told them to build more prisons, Tom Homan said wait until we see what happens next, Stephen Miller is the architect of the Muslim ban and kids in cages.

Not sure why y'all can be so knowledgeable about history, but not have any foresight into things can always get worse.

Even if you have no empathy for illegal immigrants or even Hispanics in general... he's doing this to citizens and protected people. There won't be due process for anyone if he's ignoring that now.

1. I did not say it would not proliferate in that statement. My statement does not even imply that, so right off in your first sentence you are already going off the rails. You even admitted that what I stated about Black Americans being first is true, so where is the problem in pointing out ware are not Next, when we are already first?

2. Oh, you do not know incarcerations without due process are already happening to Black Americans. Are you in this country, do you know anything about what is going on here already. Black Americans have been experiencing that since we have been here, and continue to experience it.

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3. Oh, we have a foresight of things to come. Just that what you claim is coming, is already here is the problem. You think you are forecasting the future, but you are actually forecasting our present and for some reason do not even know it. You proved it in your second paragraph.

4. I have looked, and the only citizens whom are receiving this treatment are the children who are being deported with their illegal parents, since both parents are not citizens. Do you expect the children to be kept here and be sent into the foster system, or do you think the parents should be allowed to stay, because they intentionally created a child here knowing the birthright laws?

 

[The_Sheff]

Anyone who agrees with this shyt can be the first ones picking strawberries and cucumbers when that time comes.

Trump already told you the illegals are taking black jobs. Which jobs do you think he was referring to?

 

[bnew]

Obama had deported 3.1 million people in 8 years, yet Black Americans were not touched.

Yall sound like some hoes.

was this happening under obama?

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ICE Mistakenly Detains U.S. Marshal in Arizona

Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers were left red-faced in Arizona after detaining a man who “fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE”—before quickly releasing him when they worked out who he was. After stopping the man in the lobby of a federal building that...

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ICE Mistakenly Detains U.S. Marshal in Arizona
Jack Revell
Sun, June 8, 2025 at 1:19 AM EDT
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Masked law enforcement officers, including HSI and ICE agents, walk into an immigration court in Phoenix, Arizona, U.S., May 21, 2025.
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Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers were left red-faced in Arizona after detaining a man who “fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE”—before quickly releasing him when they worked out who he was.

After stopping the man in the lobby of a federal building that houses Tucson’s immigration court, officers realized the case of mistaken identity and let him go with no arrest made.

That’s because the man in question is a U.S. Marshal.

“A Deputy U.S. Marshal who fit the general description of a subject being sought by ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) was briefly detained at a federal building in Tucson after entering the lobby of the building,” the U.S. Marshals Service said in a statement. “The Deputy U.S. Marshal’s identity was quickly confirmed by other law enforcement officers, and he exited the building without incident.”

The agency did not state when the incident happened or provide any further details.

U.S. Marshals are law enforcement officers who carry out a range of tasks in service to the U.S. federal judiciary and act as the enforcement arm of the federal court system. U.S. Marshals are stationed in Tucson’s federal buildings, where they provide security services.

ICE agents have been under pressure to ramp up their deportation efforts by the Trump administration. Last week, ICE boasted that they had detained a “record” 2,200 people in a single day, but White House Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy and Homeland Security Advisor Stephen Miller sees room for much improvement with those numbers.

In May, Miller and Homeland Security boss Kristi Noem reportedly instructed officers to begin making 3,000 arrests per day or risk losing their jobs. According to a report released at that time, Miller apparently urged agents to “turn the creative knob up to 11” by grabbing bystanders off the street and detaining people without a warrant in order to meet their quotas.

ICE acting director Todd Lyons said in April that he wanted deportations run “like a business,” aiming to replicate the vast capabilities of Amazon by becoming “Prime, but with human beings.”