If you ever doubted the GENIUS of Havoc as a producer enter immediately!!!

[Double Burger With Cheese]

I dunno how you let nikkas try to son you even though you had a legit quote from Hav from Revolt.TV
Well actually I do , you don't know how to use Google and enter the quote on the search engine and post the source smh.


Havoc talks ‘The Infamous’ album, the real story behind "Shook Ones Pt. II," and its 25th anniversary

The truth of the matter is that the hi-hat that I used on the actual track of “Shook Ones” sounds similar to a project stove. So, people made a correlation thinking I used the stove for the actual track because in the video, it’s the first thing that comes on along with the record. And they hear the hear the stove. So, people said, “Oh shyt, he used that for it!” Nah, it’s two different sounds, but they sound the same. It’s just a coincidence, but I let people sometimes think what they wanna think and let the track take on its own mystique (laughs).

 

[MurderToCassette]

His Al Green flip on Eye For An Eye is damn near just as cold and never gets talked about

 

[FunkDoc1112]

His Al Green flip on Eye For An Eye is damn near just as cold and never gets talked about

The story behind it is dope too. Original beat was a straight Al Green loop and they were already over budget, so the A&R told Hav there was no way they could clear it. So he just chopped one half-bar of it and played it at different keys.

 

[TheDarceKnight]

His Al Green flip on Eye For An Eye is damn near just as cold and never gets talked about

The story behind it is dope too. Original beat was a straight Al Green loop and they were already over budget, so the A&R told Hav there was no way they could clear it. So he just chopped one half-bar of it and played it at different keys.

There’s a video where he shows how he made it. I’ll try and post tomorrow.

 

[DrHackenbush]

Hav's production on episodes of a hustla always seems overlooked also, some crazy beats on there

 

[Kool Kitty Kat]

Right...like all the beats Q-Tip had a hand in have those loud ass sizzly snares and super compressed kicks. You see that with Survival of the Fittest, Give Up The Goods, Temperature's Rising, Up North Trip, Trife Life, and Drink Away the Pain. Start of Your Ending, QU-Hectic, Cradle to the Grave, Shook Ones, and Party Over, on the other hand, all have a consistent sound to them.

Tip worked on three songs.

 

[Won Won]

Why are dudes so fukking angry in here?

Hopefully nobody brings up Come Clean not actually being water drops or there’ll be a riot

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Tip worked on three songs.

He produced three songs directly but redid the drums and mixed Survival of the Fittest, Eye For an Eye, Up North Trip, Trife Life, and Right Back At You.

 

[mbewane]

I make beats myself and am a fan of Havoc. I’m a real student of the game when it comes to producing. Havoc never seemed like the type to be sampling sounds outside of a record. Never seemed like his style and I never heard of him using any other real life sounds for percussion. Also, I’m just never saw this nikka being in the projects with a field recorder recording sounds at that time, or hooking a mic up to some hardware and sampling a stove hissing. I always thought that story didn’t add up.

And also, look what I found. Out his own mouth. I might be wrong sometimes, but I ain’t crazy. That shyt just never sounded right to me.



Can you speak on creating the hi-hat on the track from heating up a burner on a project stove. Were there any other unique tricks or tools you used?

The truth of the matter is that the hi-hat that I used on the actual track of “Shook Ones”sounds similar to a project stove. So, people made a correlation thinking I used the stove for the actual track because in the video, it’s the first thing that comes on along with the record. And they hear the hear the stove. So, people said, “Oh shyt, he used that for it!” Nah, it’s two different sounds, but they sound the same. It’s just a coincidence, but I let people sometimes think what they wanna think and let the track take on its own mystique (laughs).

Havoc talks ‘The Infamous’ album, the real story behind “Shook Ones Pt. II,” and its 25th anniversary

Breh came through with actual receipts yet some are still mad lol

 

[bigboom]

you guys heard "shook ones pt 1" right? that sounds like a young havoc......so you're telling me he went back in the studio and came up with that masterpiece "shook ones pt 2?

i like havoc as much as the next person but come on man

 

[old pig]

classic beat...I’m about to run to this on repeat

 

[julesocean]

That ain't what he said in the interview I posted though. So I guess it's whatever you believe.

Can you speak on creating the hi-hat on the track from heating up a burner on a project stove. Were there any other unique tricks or tools you used?

The truth of the matter is that the hi-hat that I used on the actual track of “Shook Ones”sounds similar to a project stove. So, people made a correlation thinking I used the stove for the actual track because in the video, it’s the first thing that comes on along with the record. And they hear the hear the stove. So, people said, “Oh shyt, he used that for it!” Nah, it’s two different sounds, but they sound the same. It’s just a coincidence, but I let people sometimes think what they wanna think and let the track take on its own mystique (laughs).

Havoc talks ‘The Infamous’ album, the real story behind “Shook Ones Pt. II,” and its 25th anniversary

Did you even read what Hav said? He just admitted to capping every time he talked about that, and you still gonna believe? People still sample shyt from their real life, it's not a "Lost Art", it just depends on what type of producer you are. I'm glad he finally cleared it up, cuz he ain't that type of producer, his genius come from other things.

 

[hex]

Did you even read what Hav said? He just admitted to capping every time he talked about that, and you still gonna believe? People still sample shyt from their real life, it's not a "Lost Art", it just depends on what type of producer you are. I'm glad he finally cleared it up, cuz he ain't that type of producer, his genius come from other things.

Point blank saying "yeah, I sampled a stove" ain't letting people believe what they want or "letting the track take on it's own mystique". He flat out lied. So did he lie the first time, or the 2nd time?

As wowed as people were by Havoc’s obscuring of Herbie Hancock’s track from 1969, an equally impressive and perhaps lesser-known element of the “Shook Ones Pt. II” story is how he came up with the song’s hi-hats. On his 2016 Drink Champs episode, Havoc revealed that he sampled his stove as part of the drum pattern. “Right before you light it, before it come on and all of that,” he told Noreaga and DJ EFN while explaining where the sample came from.

Which is why I said, believe what you want. Not sure where the confusion is coming from.

Fred.

 

[julesocean]

Point blank saying "yeah, I sampled a stove" ain't letting people believe what they want or "letting the track take on it's own mystique". He flat out lied. So did he lie the first time, or the 2nd time?



Which is why I said, believe what you want. Not sure where the confusion is coming from.

Fred.

Look at the dates of the interviews you pulling up. They old. Havoc JUST said he lied about sampling the stove in the other interviews, because he thought it was a cool bit of "lore" to add to aura of the track.

It's not that hard to comprehend. There is no logic to him lying about this "easter egg" not being true. In three years he gonna do another interview and say "I lied about lying about the stove sample being real"?

It's a fun tidbit to believe about the track, but I never seen Hav do that in ANY other beats.

It's like an OCD thing as a fan, I'm happy he finally cleared it up, bugged me a long time.

 

[It's_Nade]

That’s Havoc man. He pitched those piano keys down so much that a lot of us thought it was a guitar or some kind of strings.

RZA did a similar thing with the pitch on Ice Cream but in reverse. It’s a guitar sample but I always thought they sounded like keys.

I’m not a beat maker but is that similar to how Ski Beatz filtered some sounds on Dead Presidents?



He mentions it at 2:50 mark