If you get really good at a pc fps, will it make console ones easy

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:dahell: is Dark souls even an FPS? Never played it. But we're deff getting off topic, SP games arent in question here. And i did say in games with a mechanically high skill cap(which would exclude battlefield to be sure:heh:) But backtracking a little bit here, you have already conceded that aiming with mouse is better than a pad. And since there is no practical way to play with your mouse without using a keyboard.. whether or not kb alone is better than pad, is a pretty moot subject, now isnt it?

:sas2: I have to goto bed breh, ill be sure to read the responses in the morn. Buenos noches.
Breh, we've been off topic. Dark souls is not a fps but it is a hardcore game and its on pc. You made the statement that keyboard is better because it's harder to use, and choosing a controller is retarded period. Then you game me a list of games designed for a analog joystick, that you claim is better with keyboard (cause u beat your girlfriend, or some random asian learned to play sf on it) wanna see prove that keyboard is a better way to play any of the games I named. Play dark souls with a keyboard
 

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Do you even know what the conversation is about to be giving your dumbass opinion?

I never said those games couldn't be played with a keyboard.

Are you agreeing with @Vaulkner that keyboard is the PREFERRED way to play those games? And that using a controller is retarded?
you said "would uncharted by fun on a Kb&M"

I answered that. cause that is what I quoted.

you literally said that in that post.

I answered it saying "people are playing games just like it on pc"

so apparently it would be fun to a lot of people on pc using Kb&M

do not try to switch it up or bring me into a different convo because you are a stupid ass
 

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Breh, we've been off topic. Dark souls is not a fps but it is a hardcore game and its on pc. You made the statement that keyboard is better because it's harder to use, and choosing a controller is retarded period. Then you game me a list of games designed for a analog joystick, that you claim is better with keyboard (cause u beat your girlfriend, or some random asian learned to play sf on it) wanna see prove that keyboard is a better way to play any of the games I named. Play dark souls with a keyboard

Breh, im looking at the video and this is some RPG that looks like a morrowwind clone, you call this hardcore? :camby:
 

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You made the statement that keyboard is better because it's harder to use
uh, that's pretty much exactly what people in this thread were saying about using a controller for FPS games

obviously certain game types were designed with a certain method of control in mind. FPS games originated on PC, and were designed to be played with a mouse and keyboard. when these games first came to console, it was a rocky road trying to figure out the best control method. to play Goldeneye with two sticks, you needed two controllers. when two stick controllers came around, it was seen as being "terrifying"

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uh, that's pretty much exactly what people in this thread were saying about using a controller for FPS games
And my point is that just cause it better for one thing, doesn't mean controllers are retarded.
obviously certain game types were designed with a certain method of control in mind. FPS games originated on PC, and were designed to be played with a mouse and keyboard. when these games first came to console, it was a rocky road trying to figure out the best control method. to play Goldeneye with two sticks, you needed two controllers. when two stick controllers came around, it was seen as being "terrifying
I was playing turok and goldeneye using the c buttons to control and the stick to look.
 

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you said "would uncharted by fun on a Kb&M"

I answered that. cause that is what I quoted.

you literally said that in that post.

I answered it saying "people are playing games just like it on pc"

so apparently it would be fun to a lot of people on pc using Kb&M

do not try to switch it up or bring me into a different convo because you are a stupid ass
Do people not use their xbox controller to play those games? I've never heard anyone say those games are better with keyboard
 

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Do people not use their xbox controller to play those games? I've never heard anyone say those games are better with keyboard
Yes people do. But other people also don't. I actually read review from someone saying they liked it cause they were left handed
 

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Yes people do. But other people also don't. I actually read review from someone saying they liked it cause they were left handed
And my point is that not everything is better with a keyboard, which is what @Vaulkner is arguing.

People use controllers even for pc games.
 

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And my point is that not everything is better with a keyboard, which is what @Vaulkner is arguing.

People use controllers even for pc games.

:soulja234:

You see, thats where you're wrong. After you agreed that yes, KB/m is worlds better for fps games, you then asked is it even possible for play other games with kb/m and i said yes, that a person with kb/m can play any game you can play on controller as equal to or better to you, in any genre of game. Also that while kb/m players can do anything you can do easily, we will be able to play games at a level that you will never ever...ever be able to do... you can't do 1/50th of things i'm able to do in starcraft or league or dota2, and THAT's why kb/m is superior to controller.

Then thats when you said yeah but i dont give a fukk about league of legends, and im like well yeah, thats why you're a retard.. too stupid to know how to play the big boy games, not smart enough to use more than 2 fingers at a time... :dead:

And breh, I just downloaded this dark souls 3 shyt:russell: (one more reason console players are retarded, you actually paid money for this shyt?:scusthov:) And this shyt is some action RPG hack and slash shyt that my fukking dad could play, im doing all the movement and action techniques just fine. Hardcore you say? Are you really trying to compare this newbie shyt to quake? Please.:camby:
 

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You see, thats where you're wrong. After you agreed that yes, KB/m is worlds better for fps games
For competitive first person shooters, yes.
you then asked is it even possible for play other games with kb/m and i said yes, that a person with kb/m can play any game you can play on controller as equal to or better to you, in any genre of game.
You keep saying this, but what pc gamer uses keyboard and mouse for games other than fps and rts.

You are flat out bullshyting with this statement. You are arguing that a keyboard is equal or better for literally every type of game.
Then thats when you said yeah but i dont give a fukk about league of legends, and im like well yeah, thats why you're a retard.. too stupid to know how to play the big boy games, not smart enough to use more than 2 fingers at a time... :dead:
Breh, league of legends does not look interesting. RTS games don't interest me. I don't like watching the action happen on screen while I'm flipping through menus micromanaging shyt. That's not fun to me.
And breh, I just downloaded this dark souls 3 shyt:russell: (one more reason console players are retarded, you actually paid money for this shyt?:scusthov:) And this shyt is some action RPG hack and slash shyt that my fukking dad could play, im doing all the movement and action techniques just fine. Hardcore you say? Are you really trying to compare this newbie shyt to quake? Please.:camby:
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Newbie shyt?

Hack and slash?

You didn't download shyt. You watched some videos, now you gonna act like you played the game? Lol upload some of that beastly gameplay.:mjlol:

I'm not comparing it to quake, apples and oranges.
:mjlol:

Hardest single player game out is newb shyt.
:mjlol:


I get the feeling that you don't play anything other than those Korean LOL games and old ass shooters that were hot when i was 12.
 

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For competitive first person shooters, yes.

You keep saying this, but what pc gamer uses keyboard and mouse for games other than fps and rts.

You are flat out bullshyting with this statement. You are arguing that a keyboard is equal or better for literally every type of game.

Breh, league of legends does not look interesting. RTS games don't interest me. I don't like watching the action happen on screen while I'm flipping through menus micromanaging shyt. That's not fun to me.

:duck:
Newbie shyt?

Hack and slash?

You didn't download shyt. You watched some videos, now you gonna act like you played the game? Lol upload some of that beastly gameplay.:mjlol:

I'm not comparing it to quake, apples and oranges.
:mjlol:

Hardest single player game out is newb shyt.
:mjlol:


I get the feeling that you don't play anything other than those Korean LOL games and old ass shooters that were hot when i was 12.



I'm not going through the process of recording a game i dont even like and uploading it to youtube when i need my bandwidth for starcraft but:
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But here's a picture of me completing the download today, feb 3rd, on the day you told me about it, and it installed on my PC, and you can see the icon in the taskbar of the game running right now, i have the game my nikka. (so again, you paid money for this newbie shyt? :dead:)

And here's a video of someone going through the motions just fine on the game with kb/m (i had to look up how to change the controls, since the game menu isnt optimized for pc players very well, made it work tho)



Sorry breh, not only does your game suck, but it's nothing that a KB/m can't do easily. So again, my statement stands, theres nothing you can do that i cant do, but theres tons that i can do that you cant do:pachaha:And breh, THIS is the hardest single player game in the world? How can that be when quake is out? Harder than starcraft 2 difficulty on brutal? Thats recent, and thats worlds harder than this. Harder than Hexen 2? You don't even know what that is but:



Please. :hhh:

Oh and at no point in a game of starcraft do you have to go through menus. Talking out of your ass. Besides.. they don't interest you because they are far beyond what your mechanically capable of, because you're a retard, who cant type without looking at the keyboard. Furthermore, whether or not it interests you is not the point, you could never do it, thats what the point is.

As far as me playing old ass shooters and korean games.... What about reflex? thats new.



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You see, thats where you're wrong. After you agreed that yes, KB/m is worlds better for fps games, you then asked is it even possible for play other games with kb/m and i said yes, that a person with kb/m can play any game you can play on controller as equal to or better to you, in any genre of game. Also that while kb/m players can do anything you can do easily, we will be able to play games at a level that you will never ever...ever be able to do... you can't do 1/50th of things i'm able to do in starcraft or league or dota2, and THAT's why kb/m is superior to controller.

Then thats when you said yeah but i dont give a fukk about league of legends, and im like well yeah, thats why you're a retard.. too stupid to know how to play the big boy games, not smart enough to use more than 2 fingers at a time... :dead:

And breh, I just downloaded this dark souls 3 shyt:russell: (one more reason console players are retarded, you actually paid money for this shyt?:scusthov:) And this shyt is some action RPG hack and slash shyt that my fukking dad could play, im doing all the movement and action techniques just fine. Hardcore you say? Are you really trying to compare this newbie shyt to quake? Please.:camby:

I love PC gaming and my keyboard, but when it comes to needing things such as analog movements, controller is going to be better than a kb/m. Can they be played with kb/m? Absolutely. However the controller does have genre's where it's preferred/better over keyboards.

There's a reason we see racing game enthusiasts use steering wheels for racers...There's a reason we're not seeing kb/m winning at fighting game tournaments. You're not going to be playing 2k or Fifa on a kb/m and pulling off the crossovers with the same fluidity and ease that controllers are.

While I agree that kb/m reign supreme over controller in FPS', RTS', MOBA's and MMO's(which are the most competitive video games on the planet)...there are games/genre's where controllers(or fightsticks/steering wheels) are actually a much better pick than keyboard/mouse. The notion that kb/m can achieve a level unreachable by any controller player at any genre is just wild breh.
 

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I love PC gaming and my keyboard, but when it comes to needing things such as analog movements, controller is going to be better than a kb/m. Can they be played with kb/m? Absolutely. However the controller does have genre's where it's preferred/better over keyboards.

There's a reason we see racing game enthusiasts use steering wheels for racers...There's a reason we're not seeing kb/m winning at fighting game tournaments. You're not going to be playing 2k or Fifa on a kb/m and pulling off the crossovers with the same fluidity and ease that controllers are.

While I agree that kb/m reign supreme over controller in FPS', RTS', MOBA's and MMO's(which are the most competitive video games on the planet)...there are games/genre's where controllers(or fightsticks/steering wheels) are actually a much better pick than keyboard/mouse. The notion that kb/m can achieve a level unreachable by any controller player at any genre is just wild breh.

I didnt say kb/m was flat out better in all genres, i said kb/m CAN be performed at equal to or better than controller/steering wheels/fightsticks, as in there's nothing a controller or whatever can do that a kb/m can't do. While for fps/rts etc, its 100% a matter of fact that kb/m is the best option.. for other genres its a personal preference, but me personally, i use kb/m for ALL genres of games i play, and i play alot of racing and fighting games. Look at this video of a pro street fighter 2 turbo player:



Im not saying kb is str8 better than controller or stick in a fighting game for example, but i personally will give any nikka on a controller the work with my kb, while the opposite can't be said for controller in a game like starcraft.

In a racing game too, whether u think a steering wheel is the best choice or kb/m is the best choice is up to you, but i can finish a lap in the same time you can, if not better.

:manny:
 
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In a racing game too, whether u think a steering wheel is the best choice or kb/m is the best choice is up to you, but i can finish a lap in the same time you can, if not better.
come on breh. a steering wheel is better because it's closer to the real thing. you remove a lot of the abstraction of using a controller or keyboard. people don't drive cars with a keyboard
 
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