If you get really good at a pc fps, will it make console ones easy

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Actually, he was trying to argue that when he posed this question: Your explanation about having more keys to press with a keyboard doesn't mean shyt. Just means it's more complicated. How do you figure having to reach around with more fingers press keys to move around, crouch, melee and whatever else is better than the ease of literally having your fingers sitting on the buttons for those actions?
Your reading comprehension must be terrible because that not at all what his statement says. He's saying that your opinion that more complicated=better, isn't necessarily true if the much simpler way can be just as effective.
So i told him WHY it's better, and after a few exchanges he changed his tune from, "How do you figure it's better?" to "Nobody is disputing that it's better." Like, the fukk did you ask that for if you're not disputing that it's better you dipshyt.
It's not better, accuracy of the mouse is really the only advantage. Having to use every finger on your left hand to perform the action made by a simple button press on a controller, doesn't make it better.

Where do you play your games? I like to play on my 60 inch TV with surround sound, sitting on the couch, smokin a blunt and relaxed. I don't want to sit hunched over a desk in the corner, face about four inches away from a 24 inch monitor.
 

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but this thread is about FPS games, so the effectiveness of mouse/kb in other genres isn't really relevant
And even in fps games, I feel like the KEYBOARD doesn't feel as good to use as a controller regardless of how accurate the mouse it. But I do agree that FPS are better with a mouse.

But this thread is now about the dumbass that made the statement that choosing a controller is retarded so why even ask the question asked by op.

Of course I'm gonna bring up that controller's having stuff analog controls, rumble, and triggers, makes it the preferred choice for majority games. And an argument can be made about why someone doesn't have to be a dumbass for preferring a controller
 

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I don't care how fast I can type those buttons when I can accomplish the same shyt using just my thumb and joystick. Can you control your momentum with a keyboard like you can using light or heavy pressure on a joystick? That's not how everyone wants to play games.

You keep talking about quake, who the fukking is playing quake? Is there an active thread on quake? I can jump and reload my gun with one motion, one finger, that's all I need.

Stop it breh, you might be able to technically play any game but let's not act like the controls aren't broken. Try playing mario galaxy with a keyboard. The shyt doesn't feel right.

Now you know this is a bunch of bullshyt. All of those games could be played with a controller if the developers cared enough. I had starcraft for the N64. Playing those types of games with a controller may not be the ideal way to play but impossible???

But not being able to control your steer in mario kart is OK to you.
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Those wack ass games don't appeal to anyone but super hardcore pc gamers.
:hhh:

Why would I want to play that trash?
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First off, you're talking out of your ass obviously because you just said you had starcraft for n64, so quite obviously, you. I guess you realized it was a game far above what your mechanically capable of, so now it's trash. They keep those games off consoles for a very good reason. Its not that they don't care: they most deff do, they always want more opportunities for additional streams of revenue by releasing certain games for console. At the same time though, they know that the maintaining the integrity of their game is important for their legacy, and they know, no matter how you slice it that SC2 is not meant to be played on console from the lesson they learned that was the disaster of SC for n64. For example, they released Diablo 3 and Overwatch for console, but not SC2, and they even said they were trying to develop a version of sc2 for ipad but it fell through, because even the godliest of players wouldn't be able to get past silver league because rudimentary micro would be impossible. (I'm a masters league zerg in starcraft btw, that means i'm in the top 2% of players in North America, so i am qualified to say this) Btw, we're you ever able to actually beat starcraft on 64 without cheats?:dame: that in itself would be a feat.

Same in league of legends, you think these developers arent hungry for every nickel they can extract from consumers by releasing games on consoles if it were viable? Of course they are, but they know that, being you have to click your tiny cursor on a tiny minion to focus fire each shot, and you have to do this to multiple targets every second for an hour, it would be very literally, impossible to do, And they don't want to fukk up the integrity of their game by being greedy.

Now as far as being able to accomplish the same shyt with your thumb and joystick, more talking out of your ass. No you cannot accomplish the same thing with your thumb and joystick. You're taking 3 times as long to do something as me. Milliseconds count in games. And yes, in conjunction with the mouse, you most certainly can control your momentum, I.E. bunny hopping. And then even still, why the fukk would you want to go slower in a game? Speed = Damage. the faster you can close in, the faster you can deal damage, and the faster you can start killing your next opponent.

Actually yes there is a thread on quake: Quake Champions Official Thread :blessed: It won't ever be as big as say CS:GO, because retards like you that are adverse to challenge have made developers collectively dumb down their games to make them more appealing to casuals, but its their way of saying.. we have not forgotten about the old gods and you guys appetite for new victims to subjugate. :shaq:

But it's not just quake where these sort of advanced movement techniques are required: Reflex, TF2 to a lesser extent, Painkiller:



And reflex is a newer game with a thriving community, just ya know, console kids have never heard about it because it's not for retards.

And stop what? the controls are not broken, i'm telling you i own a controller for PC so me and any of my friends/gf can play 2 player games, And i straight up prefer to use KB over the controller for any and all games. I showed you the video of the breh playing street fighter, and i bet my bottom dollar he's 10 times as better than you on his keyboard then you are at any fighting game, those moves he's doing are hard as fukk, but he hits them perfectly every time on his KB.

And i can steer perfectly in mario kart, thank you very much(ive beat that game forwards and backwards, and i'm never in danger of losing first place after the first lap). If you want, you can DL an snes emulator, and we can netplay mariokart, or any fighting game that your talking about.. mortal kombat, street fighter, whatever.. and we can see how your joystick fares against my KB in real time. :smugfavre:
 
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Your reading comprehension must be terrible because that not at all what his statement says. He's saying that your opinion that more complicated=better, isn't necessarily true if the much simpler way can be just as effective.
It's not better, accuracy of the mouse is really the only advantage. Having to use every finger on your left hand to perform the action made by a simple button press on a controller, doesn't make it better.

Where do you play your games? I like to play on my 60 inch TV with surround sound, sitting on the couch, smokin a blunt and relaxed. I don't want to sit hunched over a desk in the corner, face about four inches away from a 24 inch monitor.

More complicated IS better, because the much simpler way ISNT as effective, and i've posted a bunch of videos showing WHY the simpler way isnt as effective. And as for your statement about those games only appeal to hardcore gamers, well.. I am a hardcore gamer being able to play just about every competitive genre of game at a high level. RTS, FPS, card games, fighting games... pick your poison, ill fukk your shyt up. And this kinda comes back to what ive been saying... these noobie games your playing on your noobie console, have been made with the average retard in mind. If you want to play with people who's brains are functioning on a higher frequency than yours.. come play quake/reflex with the gods of gaming. You might learn something.
 

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And i can steer perfectly in mario kart, thank you very much(ive beat that game forwards and backwards, and i'm never in danger of losing first place after the first lap). If you want, you can DL an snes emulator, and we can netplay mariokart, or any fighting game that your talking about.. mortal kombat, street fighter, whatever.. and we can see how your joystick fares against my KB in real time. :smugfavre:

I'm not trying replying to all of that shyt. I used starcraft 64 as an example that yes, those types of games are possible on a controller, and I was a kid, but I do remember turning the speed down and not having much trouble without cheats. Point is that you said it would be impossible.

How do you mimic analog with a keyboard? You say you steer just fine, how?
 

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I'm not trying replying to all of that shyt. I used starcraft 64 as an example that yes, those types of games are possible on a controller, and I was a kid, but I do remember turning the speed down and not having much trouble without cheats. Point is that you said it would be impossible.



How do you mimic analog with a keyboard? You say you steer just fine, how?
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Because you have to time the turns/slides perfectly so that you're as close to the inside edge as possible without hitting it, once you know that sweet spot its a matter of knowing how long to hold down your turn/slide button so you lose as little speed/time as possible while hitting turns.
 

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More complicated IS better, because the much simpler way ISNT as effective, and i've posted a bunch of videos showing WHY the simpler way isnt as effective
No its not
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You posted a bunch of videos show its effectiveness in old ass quake.

:gucci:

We not bunny hopping in battlefield anymore.

All that complicated shyt you have to do would not be better in something like bloodborne.

:gucci:

Would Uncharted be fun on a mouse and keyboard?
:gucci:

Ni oh?
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Does any of that bunny hopping shyt matter in any single player games?
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Sitting back with a controller is most definitely the best way to play a vast majority of games.
 

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Because you have to time the turns/slides perfectly so that you're as close to the inside edge as possible without hitting it, once you know that sweet spot its a matter of knowing how long to hold down your turn/slide button so you lose as little speed/time as possible while hitting turns.
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I don't care about league of legends, or any of them cell phone looking games.
 

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I'll read through this fukkery later on when I wake up... back to this Big Sean album :king:
 

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I don't care about league of legends, or any of them cell phone looking games.

That's cool homie, i was just answering your question on which types of games are available to PC users and console users and vice versa.

No its not
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You posted a bunch of videos show its effectiveness in old ass quake.

:gucci:

We not bunny hopping in battlefield anymore.

All that complicated shyt you have to do would not be better in something like bloodborne.

:gucci:

Would Uncharted be fun on a mouse and keyboard?
:gucci:

Ni oh?
:gucci:

Does any of that bunny hopping shyt matter in any single player games?
:gucci:

Sitting back with a controller is most definitely the best way to play a vast majority of games.

:busta:Like you've actually bunny hopped in anything, Calm down breh, you're gunna blow your high.

I posted a reflex video, and that was released in 2014:



And than i told you Quake champions is being released this year :blessed: So all of these movement techniques are about to come back to the forefront, and mofos gon have to step their game up if they wanna compete with the top gunz. And sitting back with a controller playing games the best way 2 play? Now THAT's a matter of opinion.

To me, sitting in my comfy ass computer chair, with a freshly packed bowl ready to be smoked in front of me (so i dont have to waste 5 mins rolling and 10 mins smoking a blunt), with my high level equipment, shrouded in darkness at all times of the day (no sunlight gets in my room even at noon, and i have it that way on purpose) with my amazing 3D glasses on so it's like im truly inside of the game, is the best way to play games But ya know to each their own on that front.

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Like you've actually bunny hopped in anything, Calm down breh, you're gunna blow your high.

I posted a reflex video, and that was released in 2014:



And than i told you Quake champions is being released this year :blessed:
And like I said, that shyt doesn't matter in shyt like battlefield. It's useless in any type of single player game.
Competitive fps games aren't the only games I play. And all of that shyt with the keyboard means nothing in something like dark souls. Having to use three fingers to control your character while dodging with your pinky in bloodborne may take more skills, but it is not an effective way to play the game.

To me, sitting in my comfy ass computer chair, with a freshly packed bowl ready to be smoked in front of me (so i dont have to waste 5 mins rolling and 10 mins smoking a blunt), with my high level equipment, shrouded in darkness at all times of the day (no sunlight gets in my room even at noon, and i have it that way on purpose) with my amazing 3D glasses on so it's like im truly inside of the game, is the best way to play games But ya know to each their own on that front.

:manny:

I play other shyt too. I can't sit at a computer chair to play something like the Witcher for hours
 

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And like I said, that shyt doesn't matter in shyt like battlefield. It's useless in any type of single player game.
Competitive fps games aren't the only games I play. And all of that shyt with the keyboard means nothing in something like dark souls. Having to use three fingers to control your character while dodging with your pinky in bloodborne may take more skills, but it is not an effective way to play the game.



I play other shyt too. I can't sit at a computer chair to play something like the Witcher for hours

:dahell: is Dark souls even an FPS? Never played it. But we're deff getting off topic, SP games arent in question here. And i did say in games with a mechanically high skill cap(which would exclude battlefield to be sure:heh:) But backtracking a little bit here, you have already conceded that aiming with mouse is better than a pad. And since there is no practical way to play with your mouse without using a keyboard.. whether or not kb alone is better than pad, is a pretty moot subject, now isnt it?

:sas2: I have to goto bed breh, ill be sure to read the responses in the morn. Buenos noches.
 

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No its not
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You posted a bunch of videos show its effectiveness in old ass quake.

:gucci:

We not bunny hopping in battlefield anymore.

All that complicated shyt you have to do would not be better in something like bloodborne.

:gucci:

Would Uncharted be fun on a mouse and keyboard?
:gucci:

Ni oh?
:gucci:

Does any of that bunny hopping shyt matter in any single player games?
:gucci:

Sitting back with a controller is most definitely the best way to play a vast majority of games.
All those games you mentioned have games like them on pc. Playing just fine with keyboard and mouse. So can you shut your stupid ass up?
 

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All those games you mentioned have games like them on pc. Playing just fine with keyboard and mouse. So can you shut your stupid ass up?
Do you even know what the conversation is about to be giving your dumbass opinion?

I never said those games couldn't be played with a keyboard.

Are you agreeing with @Vaulkner that keyboard is the PREFERRED way to play those games? And that using a controller is retarded?
 
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