If you get really good at a pc fps, will it make console ones easy

[DPresidential]

Is that right?

Like I've said... you pick up the sticks and you getting slapped. All the hours on Quake you got, don't mean shyt. You pick up a controller, and you are getting your ass handed to you. This is a fact, and this is the main point I've been making. SO please shut the fukk up.

They aren't realizing that we are saying the ONLY transferable skill that travels across gaming machines are tactics and strategy.

Tactics + playing with what you're comfortable with allows you to not be distracted by anything but processing how to counter your opponent.

If I played with KB/M, even when I maintain some familiarity, it'll still feel weird with the simulated firing of a weapon in game.

 

[daze23]

No... My point is discrediting a controller and making it out that Kb/m is the end all be all is horribly short sighted.

In my analogy, Controllers are the inferior weapon.

I got what you were saying. I just thought it was funny

I feel like this thread has gone full retard. but I blame that on dude that said "anyone that plays an FPS game on a console is an idiot"

 

[DPresidential]

I got what you were saying. I just thought it was funny

I feel like this thread has gone full retard. but I blame that on dude that said "anyone that plays an FPS game on a console is an idiot"

Exactly!

shyt was OD emotional fueled bullshyt.

 

[Vaulkner]

Is that right?

Like I've said... you pick up the sticks and you getting slapped. All the hours on Quake you got, don't mean shyt. You pick up a controller, and you are getting your ass handed to you. This is a fact, and this is the main point I've been making. SO please shut the fukk up.

Typical monkey nikka, when logic starts to fail you, start playing dumb and ignoring the topic at hand.. that's how i know i've won. You still haven't addressed this: "Yes, you are backpedaling, i just quoted you what you said, you MADE the thread about kb/m vs controller when you asked, how do you figure such and such is better than such and such. If you REALLY cared about the 'premise of this thread' you wouldn't have even posed that question in the first place, much less responded with videos on the new topic which you made the thread about. Once i started going in though, now it's 'come on people, let's not veer off topic here"

But ill take your silence on that issue to mean you're conceding the W to me in that regard.

Now lets backtrack here. You and me have both established that KB/m is worlds better AND takes more skill to use than a controller, so why the hell would i even consider picking up a controller when i have a kb/mouse? You're saying that if i put on a pair sandals, and start racing other retards in the special olympics who want to see who can run the fastest in sandals, that i would get my ass handed to me cause i usually race with running shoes? What's the point of that? And you have the audacity to be calling anyone dumb? lol???

The same brehs claiming that KB/M abilities trump everything else in a shooter would be the same high level military leaders claiming the U.S would overwhelmingly destroy the Vietcong because of the U.S's vastly superior weapons.

"The Vietcong are fukking with inferior weaponry! They don't have any low recoil high velocity firearms that go above 700 Rounds per minute!"



Next thing you know, nikkas are engaged in a PR disaster where guerrila warfare has essentially nullified the advantage of the spoiled military's "superior weapons."

Christ, i really shouldn't but... We should have never been in Nam in the first place,and that reinforces what i said on the matter of games that aren't quake that have less of an emphasis on mechanical superiority. Regardless of how good you are mechanically you shouldn't be playing a serious match with a serious team if you don't know the game I.E. Physics, map memorization, weapons, meta, ETC. This can be learned fairly quickly though.

Oh and as for this:

And be objective.

If the best KB/M players played against the best Controller players in a game where

2 rounds everyone used KB/M and 2 rounds everyone used controllers, what would be the result?

From what I'm hearing... no controller supporter has said, "Yo, I can't use KB/M at all, shyt feel TOO foreign." But I have heard KB/M users saying "fukk, after being a kb/m user, controllers are like physical hieroglyphics.

Well, from what IM hearing... Thats exactly where the controller people are coming from. We've established with KB/m that although it is much more complicated because you have to use all of your fingers, the freedom of movement cannot be matched by controller. So all it sounds like to me is, "i know the kb/m is better, but its too hard to use, so ill stick to controller" Where as with the kb/m its more, "this shyt is so incredibly easy that a fukking monkey can do it, this is not even fun, because i don't have enough things to press. I may as well start using my other fingers to fiddle with my pubic hair, better than doing nothing." Besides, i guaran-damn-tee you that players who use KB/m, have more experience with a controller than controller players have with KB/m.(That's why kb/m players so steadfastly detest controller, they've been there..Where as no one in their right mind would get accustomed to KB/m and consciously choose to use a controller, unless they're retarded of course.)

Lets apply the piano analogy to this scenario. 10 fingers vs 2. Sure, we can both switch after we've done our respective pieces, But who do you think is going to have a harder time adapting, The person going from 10 fingers to 2, or the person going from 2 fingers to 10?

 

[GoldenGlove]

Title of thread...

"If you get really good at a PC FPS will it make console ones easy?"

Are you going to answer this question or nah?

 

[GoldenGlove]

First off, anyone that plays an FPS game on a console is an idiot. Its just impossible to get the level of control out of a controller that you can out of a kb/mouse. Also, you really need 120hz to be competitive at FPS games and consoles run at 60 so.. Being good at a console fps is kinda like being good at biking on a skateboard.

Do you really think you can get this level of control on a controller?



Yeah, i dont think so either.

So lets recap.

The Thread of the Title asks a simple question, and this was your initial post.

Explain in detail how your initial post answers the question at all? You in here calling people idiots and dumb when you lack basic comprehension skills. You bringing up talking points that don't even make sense to what the fukk was asked. So yes, I called you a dumbass, because all the while you pounding your keyboard and looking up youtube videos, you never even answered the question which was asked.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

So lets recap.

The Thread of the Title asks a simple question, and this was your initial post.

Explain in detail how your initial post answers the question at all? You in here calling people idiots and dumb when you lack basic comprehension skills. You bringing up talking points that don't even make sense to what the fukk was asked. So yes, I called you a dumbass, because all the while you pounding your keyboard and looking up youtube videos, you never even answered the question which was asked.

probably because he gets washed on console

 

[Vaulkner]

Title of thread...

"If you get really good a a PC FPS will it make console ones easy?"

Are you going to answer this question or nah?

I answered this question already, But here it goes again:

So now i've re-read the thread title as you suggested, and my original thought/post still stands, which should now ring truer than ever after having to explain all of that, that people who play fps games on consoles are idiots, and my message to the OP was, he shouldn't even be asking this question, because its idiotic to be playing FPS on consoles in the first place because as you said, no one can dispute that KB/m is better.

And

And somehow this also backs up what i'm trying to get at here: Figure out which is the strongest medium for the game you're trying to play, and focus on getting good at that, don't worry about how it will affect your play on an inferior medium, because that shouldn't ever matter, because you shouldn't be using something you know not to be the best option.

Pay attention kid. Btw i like how after you got pwned, you try to bring it all the way back to the first post to try and peice together how you got sonned so hard, nevermind all the shyt you said that helped get it to this point as well

 

[Vaulkner]

probably because he gets washed on console

nikka, i havent owned a console since i was 13, back then the only way to play over the internet was a pc + AOL(you had to be 6 figures rich to afford broadband back then), so you see i've been doing this much much longer than you. And now you've just reminded me one more reason why consoles in general are retarded, in addition to the lack of control AND the 30/60 framerate cap.

Not only do they become outdated every 3-4 years and you have to drop some ridiculous sum to get the newest version when it drops, but the same exact games are always more expensive because the game producers have to pay royalties to SONY/MS, Not to mention most of the best PC games are free to play now(QUAKE, league hearthstone dota2 tf2 etc etc), if not ridiculously cheap. And that just applies to multiplayer games, any singleplayer game you want is straight up free, through torrents. So tell me, the fukk am i gunna with a console?

 

[GoldenGlove]

I answered this question already, But here it goes again:

So now i've re-read the thread title as you suggested, and my original thought/post still stands, which should now ring truer than ever after having to explain all of that, that people who play fps games on consoles are idiots, and my message to the OP was, he shouldn't even be asking this question, because its idiotic to be playing FPS on consoles in the first place because as you said, no one can dispute that KB/m is better.

And

And somehow this also backs up what i'm trying to get at here: Figure out which is the strongest medium for the game you're trying to play, and focus on getting good at that, don't worry about how it will affect your play on an inferior medium, because that shouldn't ever matter, because you shouldn't be using something you know not to be the best option.

Pay attention kid. Btw i like how after you got pwned, you try to bring it all the way back to the first post to try and peice together how you got sonned so hard, nevermind all the shyt you said that helped get it to this point as well

You not owning shyt in here tho. You're moving goal posts and your "original thought" never answered shyt so how you going to stand by it


You don't answer a question by saying, "You shouldn't even be asking this question". Common sense ain't that common, obviously. There are shooters that are on CONSOLE that are not on PC, so are those people idiots too? So you going to give Halo players that work on console cause you good at Quake on PC

 

[The Jewnited States]

I used to play fps games at a semi professional level on the PC. I am absolutely terrible at fps games on the console's. Using the sticks is garbage compared to using a mouse and keyboard

 

[Vaulkner]

You not owning shyt in here tho. You're moving goal posts and your "original thought" never answered shyt so how you going to stand by it


You don't answer a question by saying, "You shouldn't even be asking this question". Common sense ain't that common, obviously. There are shooters that are on CONSOLE that are not on PC, so are those people idiots too? So you going to give Halo players that work on console cause you good at Quake on PC

I'm moving goal posts? lol? I said something, and you said something back then i said something, and you said something back, ya know, the way a natural discussion is supposed to evolve, until you didn't like how that evolution was going so now YOU are moving the goal post back to the beginning.

Like for instance, there's that Beyonce is pregnant thread right? Now say if someone came in there saying "Did yall know that Jay-z had a love child with janet jackson 20 years ago that no one knew about?" Under the strictest dictum of staying on topic, yes it would be inappropriate, but otherwise we all know that would be VERY relevant to the topic at hand and the thread itself would definitely no longer be about beyonces' twins but would naturally evolve into a thread about jays love child.

As i said earlier: i think this discussion is very relevant to the premise of the thread, instead of flaccid opinions, i'm giving the OP stone cold facts about what it truly takes to play PC games vs console games, so he can make an objectively based decision on what the answer to his question is.

As for the saying you cant answer a question with you shouldnt be asking this question, well, that's a matter of opinion. For instance, you ask "Vaulkner, why is my bytch on your dikk?" And i say brehdrin, you should not be asking me this question, you need to do some pushups and step your game up so you'll never have to ask this question again. Same thing for this thread, i said: Figure out which is the strongest medium for the game you're trying to play, and focus on getting good at that, don't worry about how it will affect your play on an inferior medium, because that shouldn't ever matter, because you shouldn't be using something you know not to be the best option. Which is essentially saying do this, and you'll never have to ask this question again.

I used to play fps games at a semi professional level on the PC. I am absolutely terrible at fps games on the console's. Using the sticks is garbage compared to using a mouse and keyboard

This for example, doesn't exactly answer the question but it IS relevant to the discussion because he's talking about his experiences with both mediums, and which he prefers after having played with the two, which is exactly what i did. You gunna come at him too?

Next question.

 

[DPresidential]

I used to play fps games at a semi professional level on the PC. I am absolutely terrible at fps games on the console's. Using the sticks is garbage compared to using a mouse and keyboard

@GoldenGlove breh...

The bolded...


I mean isn't...


I just don't see...


You know what... And @Vaulkner dapped the breh.



Side note: States, I'm not even taking shots at you...

 

[The Jewnited States]

@GoldenGlove breh...

The bolded...


I mean isn't...


I just don't see...


You know what... And @Vaulkner sapped the breh.



Side note: States, I'm not even taking shots at you...

i used to be sponsored by intel and nvidia when i was being flown out to tournaments around the country for a certain FPS game. been gaming with a keyboard and mouse most of my life. when i get on a console i can't aim for shyt because i haven't practiced with it at all. get me on a mouse and keyboard and i'll dominate in a FPS.

it's just a matter of what you play with the most. of course the mental side of the game translates, knowing how to move around the map, how to peek, gamesense knowing where your enemies are, how to control a map, etc etc but the actual aiming itself, it's apples and oranges when comparing the two.

 

[DPresidential]

i used to be sponsored by intel and nvidia when i was being flown out to tournaments around the country for a certain FPS game. been gaming with a keyboard and mouse most of my life. when i get on a console i can't aim for shyt because i haven't practiced with it at all. get me on a mouse and keyboard and i'll dominate in a FPS.

it's just a matter of what you play with the most. of course the mental side of the game translates, knowing how to move around the map, how to peek, gamesense knowing where your enemies are, how to control a map, etc etc but the actual aiming itself, it's apples and oranges when comparing the two.

Understandable.

No one is saying anything opposite.