If you were a new artist, with no money, would you sign this contract?

[Uitomy]

Then do not front with your image. If you are not getting money in the streets or laying "opps" down stick to rapping about what you know.

But they rapping for the money not to be themselves
So putting up that front is still essential because that's gonna put them on

 

[num123]

But they rapping for the money not to be themselves
So putting up that front is still essential because that's gonna put them on

Your comment could be a thread in of itself, but if you do not bust your gun or slanging something that will be found out and be used against you. Be yourself, there are lanes for everyone.

 

[Why-Fi]

6 albums, the success of each tied to the whims of a major label that owns the masters...no

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Let's say you're just coming on to the scene (2-3 years), slight buzz, but you not making real money yet (maybe 2500 a show).

And like Atlantic offers you a deal:

$250K for signing up front, all yours (you don't have to pay it back)
They own all the your masters
They get a percentage of your tour money, show money, merchandise, ad revenue, licensing, features, etc...
And you're signed for 6 studio albums (Mixtapes, collaborations, eps, etc.. don't count towards your albums you owe them)

Or would you not sign and stay indie.

To be honest, depends on that percentage and I’d want years instead of albums in case they purposefully shelf you at 5

 

[trillanova]

How do you know for sure you will eventually earn that money? Nothing in life is guaranteed

grinding, consistency, continual improvement, expansion....all those things add up.

 

[CrimsonTider]

grinding, consistency, continual improvement, expansion....all those things add up.

You need resources for that

 

[Roxx the King]

Let's say you're just coming on to the scene (2-3 years), slight buzz, but you not making real money yet (maybe 2500 a show).

And like Atlantic offers you a deal:

$250K for signing up front, all yours (you don't have to pay it back)
They own all the your masters
They get a percentage of your tour money, show money, merchandise, ad revenue, licensing, features, etc...
And you're signed for 6 studio albums (Mixtapes, collaborations, eps, etc.. don't count towards your albums you owe them)

Or would you not sign and stay indie.

Sign the deal and try to outperform so you can renegotiate. 6 albums is a lot but if you successful within the first 3 you may be able to do another deal. I dunno.

I think the point is, you don't get a lot of opportunities to make it. Maybe it is worth an unfavorable deal as a new artist to get your foot in the door. I dunno.

 

[trillanova]

You need resources for that

As an artist, you are your own resource. If you're good, people will naturally gravitate toward you and help you. Artists fukk up when they forget to see themselves as an actual business entity and lose sight of their own value and allow others to dictate it for them. Creativity is a truly unlimited resource. Once you hone in on it, nobody can take it away....but a lack of oversight can dwindle it's power over time. If that's your main asset and resource, you must protect it...literally at all costs.

 

[CrimsonTider]

As an artist, you are your own resource. If you're good, people will naturally gravitate toward you and help you. Artists fukk up when they forget to see themselves as an actual business entity and lose sight of their own value and allow others to dictate it for them. Creativity is a truly unlimited resource. Once you hone in on it, nobody can take it away....but a lack of oversight can dwindle it's power over time. If that's your main asset and resource, you must protect it...literally at all costs.

The real world doesn’t work like this

 

[Trot LaRoc]

6 albums is way too long.

I'd prob go indie regardless, not owning your masters is a dealbreaker

2500 a show is more than enough to live on(in the times before covid)

Plus 6 albums.... and a 360...fukk that

 

[Trot LaRoc]

That ain’t shyt tho when you think about it. Assuming you can even command 3 shows a week you have to account for the cost of travel, food, clothes, and a DJ. That $2500 you made off one show is gone as soon as you get it. Not to mention you gotta pay taxes

Lot of assumption

What if the shows are local and in driving distance....then you're just out gas
Food? You dont need to buy fancy shyt.
Clothes? You have to have a Gucci fit for every show?
DJ at this point is prob a homie but would prob do it for $250 a show

Usually a buzzing artist is doing shows locally/regionally.....no need to fly

Even if you take home 1500 after costs/manager, that's still more than enough to live on

 

[JustCKing]

I would take the $250K. Why?

slight buzz, but you not making real money yet (maybe 2500 a show)

^^^ key words here. You only take the indy route if you've created a huge buzz all of your own and you basically just need distribution. $250K up front that you don't have to pay back is serious money IF you know how to INVEST. It's much you could do with $250K.

Now, if you become a successful artist moving units, its a win win.

 

[TripleAgent]

I would never sign to Atlantic unless they turned their whole shyt around, that's all I needed to see.

 

[getmoney310cpt]

Change that 250k to 500k and everybody saying no signing that


I’d try to drop all 6 albums in 1-2 yrs on some master p shyt and that’s why you always see rappers complaining “they won’t let me drop my album idk what they waiting for” they don’t want you to NOT be in the red

 

[JustCKing]

Plies was signed to Atlantic. Breh put out 4 albums in 3 years.Two dropped within the same year. He did decent on Atlantic, but I don't know the details of his contract.