If you were to put Steph Curry on the 2001 Sixers would they still make the finals?

[MostReal]

So basically what the people who are voting no is saying, is that Iverson is a better player than Curry?




People have forgotten how to watch the game of basketball.

A great jumpshot causes mad disturbance in a defense.
Curry doesn't have just a great jumpshot folks, he has unlimited range with it and he finishes at the rim at a high clip. Hes as complete as you could ever want your PG to be on the offensive end

 

[hayesc0]

Its hard to say really i think he wouldn't be able to properly adapt to the rules of the time he probably would have been injured alot lol.

 

[Lord_Chief_Rocka]

Absolutely not.

Slower pace, more physical, more isolation

 

[Draje]

You can't even compare them, Iverson had the entire team on his back slashing to the basket and making his own shot, is curry running the point? Then what is Eric snow doing?

Mutombo not putting up points like that, basicly curry would have to avg 30 ppg or more to make the finals and be double teamed the entire game.. he's able to do what he does because the floor is wide open w/ 3 other all stars for the defense to worry about

Curry is one of the best off-ball players of all time. The fact that he can run an elite offense as the primary ball handler or as a tertiary ball-handler is one of the reasons Golden State is dangerous.

Mutumbo is getting loads of easy points off of easy put backs and lobs because the amount of space he’s going to have. Curry requires doubles at 30 feet put. 4 guys inside the 3 point line is much harder to grab offensive boards as opposed to 2-3 dudes (Usually a big because Curry is a PnR maestro).

Curry has shown the fukk out without multiple all stars.



Show me the defensive scheme or set here that Curry is gonna struggle to get looks at again. Curry could EASILY get these looks against teams like the Bucks. Curry is better at reading screens, both on ball and off ball, is a better passer, has a much quicker trigger, and is an infinitely better shooter from 30 feet in (With an inch of space) than Iverson is at the mid-range.

 

[010101]

delly would've got 100 dropped on his head tryna hold chuck*

 

[FunkDoc1112]

Steph was leading golden state te to the play offs before Kerr fame into the picture

Word, nikkas kill me acting like the Warriors roster was great right off the bat. Like Klay Thompson now is the Klay Thompson from 2013 or something. That was firmly Steph's team in 2013. Klay was inconsistent as fukk, he'd go 12-16 one game and then 3-12 the next two games.

The level of discrediting Steph gets from washed nikkas is just astounding. Like you guys just will not allow yourselves to like him, and it's on a fundamental level.

I think people's problem is he represents everything they hate about the modern NBA, so in their minds they gotta shyt on him to make a point about the entire generation

 

[FunkDoc1112]

I like how there's literally no logical explanation for Steph not being able to do it

The East had ZERO deep teams that year and Steph is more efficient and the spacing issues he generates makes his teammates shooting percentage skyrocket.

Y'all really still judge players by just what they do when the balls in their hand, ignoring the fact that when Steph doesnt have it he does shyt to defenses that no player before him ever has.

As mediocre as that supporting cast is you think they'd be WORSE with the open looks that Steph generates?

The thing that always kills me is they use a bunch of basic ass defensive strategies for why such and such player wouldn't be able to succeed in the past, like there aren't a million counters for them in any era

"See guys, they'd trap Steph, it would never work!"

 

[MostReal]

Curry is one of the best off-ball players of all time. The fact that he can run an elite offense as the primary ball handler or as a tertiary ball-handler is one of the reasons Golden State is dangerous.

Mutumbo is getting loads of easy points off of easy put backs and lobs because the amount of space he’s going to have. Curry requires doubles at 30 feet put. 4 guys inside the 3 point line is much harder to grab offensive boards as opposed to 2-3 dudes (Usually a big because Curry is a PnR maestro).

Curry has shown the fukk out without multiple all stars.



Show me the defensive scheme or set here that Curry is gonna struggle to get looks at again. Curry could EASILY get these looks against teams like the Bucks. Curry is better at reading screens, both on ball and off ball, is a better passer, has a much quicker trigger, and is an infinitely better shooter from 30 feet in (With an inch of space) than Iverson is at the mid-range.

Curry would light that defense up, especially with how they are playing AI defensively there

 

[Draje]

Curry would light that defense up, especially with how they are playing AI defensively there

These nikkas legit think that Eric Snow and Dikembe Mutumbo we’re missing wide open layups because teams were just hard doubling/tripling Iverson from 90 fee out.

Iverson was smaller and wasn’t able to consistently pass through clogged lanes (He’s a good passer and a great drive & dish player but he’s not the floor general type PG) so sending doubles at him any time he got a step inside the 3-pointer or forming defensive walls when he drives limits both his ability to finish or find an open man. It also makes it more difficult for cutters to find open lanes to the paint because the clogged up lanes makes it easier to rotate to contest.

You can’t play Curry like that at all. You can’t shadow Curry with a player to protect from his drive. The only double that affects his game is a hard double and it has to be a complete commit because he shoots better contested than 99% players do open plus with that quick trigger, it barely registers if it’s even a split second late.

Off the ball? Forget about it. Curry uses screens at a level that only Rip and Allen can compare too but it’s even more dangerous because Curry requires CONSTANT communication to properly guard off-ball. A single defensive miscommunication, even 30 feet out, is almost a layup for Curry. You almost always have to leave your feet to even try to contest his shot and he’s an elite ball-faker. He pretty much breaks most traditional defensive schemes. Shots that teams are taught to force players into shooting like, contested off the dribble threes, are the shots that Curry can make in his sleep.

Not only do you gotta worry about all that, Curry is also an instant offensive talent. Dude can be 2-10 from 3 and you still have to cover him like he’s shooting perfect because all he needs is like 5 minutes of a defender slowing down after chasing him the whole game to drop a quick 20 on your head.

He’s insane.

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

These nikkas legit think that Eric Snow and Dikembe Mutumbo we’re missing wide open layups because teams were just hard doubling/tripling Iverson from 90 fee out.

Iverson was smaller and wasn’t able to consistently pass through clogged lanes (He’s a good passer and a great drive & dish player but he’s not the floor general type PG) so sending doubles at him any time he got a step inside the 3-pointer or forming defensive walls when he drives limits both his ability to finish or find an open man. It also makes it more difficult for cutters to find open lanes to the paint because the clogged up lanes makes it easier to rotate to contest.

You can’t play Curry like that at all. You can’t shadow Curry with a player to protect from his drive. The only double that affects his game is a hard double and it has to be a complete commit because he shoots better contested than 99% players do open plus with that quick trigger, it barely registers if it’s even a split second late.

Off the ball? Forget about it. Curry uses screens at a level that only Rip and Allen can compare too but it’s even more dangerous because Curry requires CONSTANT communication to properly guard off-ball. A single defensive miscommunication, even 30 feet out, is almost a layup for Curry. You almost always have to leave your feet to even try to contest his shot and he’s an elite ball-faker. He pretty much breaks most traditional defensive schemes. Shots that teams are taught to force players into shooting like, contested off the dribble threes, are the shots that Curry can make in his sleep.

Not only do you gotta worry about all that, Curry is also an instant offensive talent. Dude can be 2-10 from 3 and you still have to cover him like he’s shooting perfect because all he needs is like 5 minutes of a defender slowing down after chasing him the whole game to drop a quick 20 on your head.

He’s insane.

This last part too. He heats up as quickly as any shooter I’ve ever seen. Ray Allen and Klay Thompson are the only two I’ve seen that could go off for 8-12 points in a 2-3 minute stretch as regularly as he does.

 

[BrothaZay]

No. As great a shooter that curry is we need to stop forgetting he has 2 other top 10-15 shooters all time on his team

 

[jwinfield]

These nikkas legit think that Eric Snow and Dikembe Mutumbo we’re missing wide open layups because teams were just hard doubling/tripling Iverson from 90 fee out.

Iverson was smaller and wasn’t able to consistently pass through clogged lanes (He’s a good passer and a great drive & dish player but he’s not the floor general type PG) so sending doubles at him any time he got a step inside the 3-pointer or forming defensive walls when he drives limits both his ability to finish or find an open man. It also makes it more difficult for cutters to find open lanes to the paint because the clogged up lanes makes it easier to rotate to contest.

You can’t play Curry like that at all. You can’t shadow Curry with a player to protect from his drive. The only double that affects his game is a hard double and it has to be a complete commit because he shoots better contested than 99% players do open plus with that quick trigger, it barely registers if it’s even a split second late.

Off the ball? Forget about it. Curry uses screens at a level that only Rip and Allen can compare too but it’s even more dangerous because Curry requires CONSTANT communication to properly guard off-ball. A single defensive miscommunication, even 30 feet out, is almost a layup for Curry. You almost always have to leave your feet to even try to contest his shot and he’s an elite ball-faker. He pretty much breaks most traditional defensive schemes. Shots that teams are taught to force players into shooting like, contested off the dribble threes, are the shots that Curry can make in his sleep.

Not only do you gotta worry about all that, Curry is also an instant offensive talent. Dude can be 2-10 from 3 and you still have to cover him like he’s shooting perfect because all he needs is like 5 minutes of a defender slowing down after chasing him the whole game to drop a quick 20 on your head.

He’s insane.

In 2017 we saw the Cavs leaving Durant run down straight down the middle of the court on a fast break because they were worried about Steph in the corner, but the team makes things easier for HIM

 

[Draje]

This last part too. He heats up as quickly as any shooter I’ve ever seen. Ray Allen and Klay Thompson are the only two I’ve seen that could go off for 8-12 points in a 2-3 minute stretch as regularly as he does.

nikkas sleep on how unstoppable Curry looked those first two MVP years. He had teams and players pulling their hair out and looking straight befuddled with the shyt he was doing. Teams thought he finally slowed down and he’d shoot some 35 foot shot, in the face of the best defender, and start shimmying in faces.

But we think that older, less polished and complicated defensive sets with players who barely respected the 3 pointer as legitimate weapon and would be giving up the kinda shots that Curry takes as “lucky BS” because that’s exactly how he was treated. Everyone thought it was some flukey shot making until we just realized that he’s inhumanly good at it

 

[ISO]

Yeah, Steph is a better player than A.I., y'all gonna have to accept it.

Also, the people saying he wouldn't be able to handle the physicality are wrong and y'all are going by the assumption that Steph is going to be injured. Steph has insane core strength, he can deadlift over 400 pounds, it's a big reason why he is so effective around the rim.

 

[KOohbt]

It would be interesting to see how Curry responds to not having a top 5 shooter ever on his squad.