If your favorite rapper was exposed for having ghostwriters . . how would you feel?

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Songwriting should be welcomed in hip-hop like other genres. Like singing, there are dudes who can write their asses off but do not have the voice to capture a lot of listeners attention. Myself as an example. Just imagine how many beautiful raps and songs that will never be recorded for self-indulging egos of rappers.
 

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there's ghost writers... "here's a song i wrote.. here's me doing the song... copy this"

and then there's nikkas helping out.... "yo jay, don't say i won't change... say i'll never change"



which of these did you think jay-z had
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Songwriting should be welcomed in hip-hop like other genres. Like singing, there are dudes who can write their asses off but do not have the voice to capture a lot of listeners attention. Myself as an example. Just imagine how many beautiful raps and songs that will never be recorded for self-indulging egos of rappers.

I disagree with you . . that's not what rapping is about. Rapping requires no vocal talent and thus there's no reason an artist should be out there if they don't write their own music
 

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I disagree with you . . that's not what rapping is about. Rapping requires no vocal talent and thus there's no reason an artist should be out there if they don't write their own music
You and a million people disagree with that notion. That being said leads to it being the least valued genre right now because it appears anyone can do it.
 

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I've already excepted the fact that ghostface 'used' to have nikkas in his camp helping him out.
But it sounds like he's writing his own rhymes again, 100%.

I know for factual that my fav member of a group got help with his bars. Kinda cant listen to his music like i use to.

If ya'll referring to Ghost and his Theodore Unit ya'll bugging. That's not "ghostwriting". A dude getting some lil lines, or influenced by his crew is not "ghostwriting". EVERY MC that's ever MCed and has a crew/group/squad was influenced by them and they all traded lines before. Name one that hasn't.
 

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You and a million people disagree with that notion. That being said leads to it being the least valued genre right now because it appears anyone can do it.
a million people?? who are these people??

no having a nice voice isn't a fukking talent

and yes... anybody can rap... don't you see these corny ass white motherfukkers "rapping" on mcdonalds commercials and snl skits and in movies..... how many people you know playing a piano after 4 hours of practice?

the skill is the writing of the song.. that's ALL the skill... and how do i know this.. cause 99% of the time, they don't just write the song, they go in the booth and record reference tracks... which is the writer, doing the whole entire song, flow, delivery, adlibs, everything.... then they send it to a dr. dre who only copies every action, line for line

what talent does that take?? besides sounding like dr. dre?


what the fukk was the "talent" of lil kim on this song?? she did everything biggie did down to the "uh uh" her voice is not a talent


 

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a million people?? who are these people??

no having a nice voice isn't a fukking talent

and yes... anybody can rap... don't you see these corny ass white motherfukkers "rapping" on mcdonalds commercials and snl skits and in movies..... how many people you know playing a piano after 4 hours of practice?

the skill is the writing of the song.. that's ALL the skill... and how do i know this.. cause 99% of the time, they don't just write the song, they go in the booth and record reference tracks... which is the writer, doing the whole entire song, flow, delivery, adlibs, everything.... then they send it to a dr. dre who only copies every action, line for line

what talent does that take?? besides sounding like dr. dre?


what the fukk was the "talent" of lil kim on this song?? she did everything biggie did down to the "uh uh" her voice is not a talent



I never said talent. I said a voice but the look too. Songwriters are the real artists not the actual singers. I get that. However, if it was more acceptable then hip-hop would have a stable economy where dudes do not have to strive to be the star to get their work out there. It is all I am saying.
 

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would never happen to kendrick & nas since they ghostwrite for other artists
 
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People have this idea that every single time a well known artist gets into the studio he just magically mumbles out verses to songs and it just organically grows into something.

Meanwhile in the real world some people are extremely busy touring, with businesses, enjoying life, etc to where they show up at a studio with the beat already done, hook already laid, and the concept of the song already mapped out with them just needing to come up with some type of lyrics to match. Even then some of them will have someone in their crew pen a song while they go handle something else. Or they will work on multiple songs at once so theyll get some assistance in order to get it banged out.
 

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I'd be devastated :mjcry:

I'd be like finding out Asa Akira was fukking the soul
outta all them lucky ass porn nikkaz with some other
hoe's p*ssy :mjcry:

bytch, you wasn't the one doing Kegels in the gym :mjcry:

You just Shang Tsung'd some other hoe's genitalia & clitrode 'em to stardom :mjcry:

I can't muthafukkaz playin wit my emotions like that, breh :mjcry:

Someone might have to die :demonic:






:whoa:......feds & porn addicts watching
 

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the skill is the writing of the song.. that's ALL the skill... and how do i know this.. cause 99% of the time, they don't just write the song, they go in the booth and record reference tracks... which is the writer, doing the whole entire song, flow, delivery, adlibs, everything.... then they send it to a dr. dre who only copies every action, line for line

I agree. I'd rather be a ghostwriter than be a rapper who gets their bars written for them.
 

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People have this idea that every single time a well known artist gets into the studio he just magically mumbles out verses to songs and it just organically grows into something.

Meanwhile in the real world some people are extremely busy touring, with businesses, enjoying life, etc to where they show up at a studio with the beat already done, hook already laid, and the concept of the song already mapped out with them just needing to come up with some type of lyrics to match. Even then some of them will have someone in their crew pen a song while they go handle something else. Or they will work on multiple songs at once so theyll get some assistance in order to get it banged out.
none of that is ghost writing tho

like i said before... a producer hitting you with a beat... a hook... yo this should be about a girl.... yo son say this shyt right here.....


is totally different from, here's a fully made song... here's the instrumental... do exactly what i did and tell everyone you wrote it
 
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