If your favorite rapper was exposed for having ghostwriters . . how would you feel?

[NSSVO]

I would feel kind of indifferent. Automatic DQ'd from Grammy and GOAT talk.

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

none of that is ghost writing tho

like i said before... a producer hitting you with a beat... a hook... yo this should be about a girl.... yo son say this shyt right here.....


is totally different from, here's a fully made song... here's the instrumental... do exactly what i did and tell everyone you wrote it

If someone else is writing words you are saying, its ghost writing. So if a writing pool came up with a hook and bridge already laid out for the artist they are ghost writing the hook. No two ways to about it.

Here is a perfect example of a concept thought up by someone else (Mark Batson), with the hook performed by someone else (D'Angelo), the verses written by other people (DOC for Dre and there was a few people writing for Snoop on this album), with the beat done by someone else (Mark Batson).....a GREAT song too...

 

[Ziggiy]

Nas using ghostwriters would seriously make me lose faith in Hip Hop real talk

 

[Walter H White]

The Dunn language can never be ghostwritten.....

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

If someone else is writing words you are saying, its ghost writing. So if a writing pool came up with a hook and bridge already laid out for the artist they are ghost writing the hook. No two ways to about it.

Here is a perfect example of a concept thought up by someone else (Mark Batson), with the hook performed by someone else (D'Angelo), the verses written by other people (DOC for Dre and there was a few people writing for Snoop on this album), with the beat done by someone else (Mark Batson).....a GREAT song too...

and dre and snoop are bullshyt for that

like i said.. someone writing a hook.. ehhhhh... i don't care.. a line.. when you writing a whole album.... ok ok ok.. someone got some lines of suggestion


but here bro... here's your verse.. rap this.... you've taken ALL the talent out of the process and walking with your head up like "yea i'm nice on the mic" that will NEVER be accepted in hip hop.. you bragging, boasting, talking shyt bout life and your life.. and you didn't even write the shyt or have input on it.. you're not hot... your writers are

 

[OnlyInCalifornia]

and dre and snoop are bullshyt for that

like i said.. someone writing a hook.. ehhhhh... i don't care.. a line.. when you writing a whole album.... ok ok ok.. someone got some lines of suggestion


but here bro... here's your verse.. rap this.... you've taken ALL the talent out of the process and walking with your head up like "yea i'm nice on the mic" that will NEVER be accepted in hip hop.. you bragging, boasting, talking shyt bout life and your life.. and you didn't even write the shyt or have input on it.. you're not hot... your writers are

That's great on what you might feel is acceptable or not but that doesn't change the fact if you are performing someone elses lyrics they are ghost writing for you. They are writing for you. You can't just assign 12 songs or 200 bars as some type of level of when it goes from nothing worth mentioning to 'ghost writing'

As for all the purist stuff, that sounds good and all but I bet there are songs you like where someone else did the heavy lifting on the song.

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That's great on what you might feel is acceptable or not but that doesn't change the fact if you are performing someone elses lyrics they are ghost writing for you. They are writing for you. You can't just assign 12 songs or 200 bars as some type of level of when it goes from nothing worth mentioning to 'ghost writing'

As for all the purist stuff, that sounds good and all but I bet there are songs you like where someone else did the heavy lifting on the song.

yea but the example you gave... neither rappers even performed the hook.. so if that's all that happened, it doesn't count... and 99% of the time, hook writers get credit

we talking about GHOST writing... you have paid someone and given them ZERO credit on the song, and you are out faking the funk, like hey i wrote that




as i said in this thread... i don't care if it was biggie.. if i found you wasn't even responsible for those hits, you're a sucker and i'm gonna have to question why i'd even like your non talent ass

 

[mr.BurstYobubblE]

Would it break your heart or would you start defending the use of ghostwriters?


How do you think the stans of the following artists would react?


- Kendrick stans . . Drake stans . . Eminem stans . . 50 stans . . Jay Z stans . . Nas stans

 

[mson]

Nas using ghostwriters would seriously make me lose faith in Hip Hop real talk

What if it was for one album?

 

[The Connoisseurs]

Daps to my former self , for already knowing.
high-key brag post about something that clearly doesn’t matter

 

[Pop123]

I'd be relieved, then I'd understand why I haven't been feeling Nas newer ish like I normally would

 

[Formerly Black Trash]

Joe Budden or Blu
I’d be disgusted

I didn’t care that Kanye had them but I stopped playing his music after the anti black talk

 

[Child_Of_God]

I would take him less seriously.

 

[1-8-7-Skillz]

If someone else is writing words you are saying, its ghost writing. So if a writing pool came up with a hook and bridge already laid out for the artist they are ghost writing the hook. No two ways to about it.

Here is a perfect example of a concept thought up by someone else (Mark Batson), with the hook performed by someone else (D'Angelo), the verses written by other people (DOC for Dre and there was a few people writing for Snoop on this album), with the beat done by someone else (Mark Batson).....a GREAT song too...

With this song for example theres absolutely no problem for me
Snoop wrote his part and Dr. Dre was ALWAYS using writers and did it openly/everybody knows this.
Ive never seen ANYONE be on "Oh no Dre doesnt write his lyrics"

@topic:

It sucks but im 100% sure if we REALLY knew every ghostwritten song in hip hop history people would loose faith in the art form

 

[JMD]

Snoop has always given credit where credit was due

I have a problem with rappers who try to take credit on some Beyoncé type shyt and saying yeah I wrote this song and this and that