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I don't even know who you are. :dwillhuh:


Like literally. I've never seen your name on this entire site and I been here for years :dwillhuh:

People capable of changing screen name. Me changing my screen name doesn't avert the fact that whole post was some silly shyt breh.
 

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You missing my point, babe.

I'm saying... maybe I have it wrong but it seems like you started this thread to get some understanding of the male psyche.

I'm saying... if you really want to understand how us men think, then engaging with a man who thinks like a woman isn't going to help with that.

You may disagree with the things that I and @DatNkkaCutty or @WesCrook or @the bossman say but we always gon keep it 100 with you.

If you want to understand and find out where men stand, you have to discuss it with the men who actually think like men.

And I promise you... even the brehs in here that are saying they would never cheat... even if a man decides that he wouldn't cheat, we ALL understand the thought process on why a man would do it.
Most men are with the woman they're with because she is the best he can do at that point in his life.
 

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I dont believe in a narrow window of perfection. The folks that are on this online space that do have that slim tiny window of perfection as their ideal, I believe, are men who lack experience with women period. Which is why their views on women are so limited and short sighted and unrealistic.

I value imperfections in a woman whether physically or philosophically or mentally or whatever. I'm imperfect myself so why hold her to some ethereal unrealistic measuring stick?

I dont follow Kevin Samuels nor do I believe he's a good "role model" for men. One breh on here said it best. Kevin has "auntie swag" :russ:


So I'm not looking to an obvious zesty dude for advice and it's kind of alarming that so many do.

But in a way, I understand it. There's an increasing level of frustration between men and women - on both sides.

But someone like Kevin is able to come along, pepper in some things to make men feel good while simultaneously calling into question the worthiness of women. And with that explosive collide of ideas, a following is born.

It's almost genius. Women listen to him because women seek validation. And the more a man does NOT validate women, the more women seek it. So they are intrigued by what Kevin says because its almost as if he's issued a challenge to women's ego. He's telling women that they are not worthy so it almost seems like every woman that speaks to him is hoping to be that one worthy woman? I don't know. Thats my theory but I don't listen to him to know for sure.

And of course men love to listen because Kevin gets the opportunity to tell women to their face what thousands and thousands of frustrated men would like to say to yall.

A summed up version of "you want us men to be perfect? You aint perfect ya damn self. How you aint a virgin and been giving ya p*ssy away to all these men but expect to get the cream of the crop when you're ready to settle down? You passed over all the good men who wanted to make you an honest woman and instead went for dudes that were no good, you're not young anymore and a lot of you are out of shape, so why should we listen to what you want?"


It's a place of anger, a place of grievance, and that's what it seems Kevin has been able to tap into. He's the mouthpiece for the frustration of many men.

I understand why the show is successful but I also know better. His show is for people who don't have money and have rich people fantasies. Rich people aren't perfect with the old man with the 21 year old wife stories he sells.

I follow another youtuber who is HVM; self made black millionaire and his new girlfriend who he is thinking of wifing is short, chubby and in her late 30s. He champions Kevin a lot and doesn't even follow "KS rules."

Men date all kind of women and like I said earlier proximity counts for a lot.
 
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First off if you think women aren’t on par with men then it’s not worth a conversation.:yeshrug:

The point I was making was specifically calling some men out on their hypocrisy to claim that they cheat due to increased sexual opportunity, as if that’s an excuse to have a lack of self control. If it is, then anybody who has multiple opportunities would be justified, right?
Welp, as you’ve stated, women have multiple sexual opportunities so by the “I got sooo many opportunities to fukk that I can’t control myself” logic, women should be fukking everything too.

Bottomline is cheating is a choice and it’s about selfishness and a lack of self control. All this overemphasis on gender differences to avoid being able to respect your partner in a committed relationship doesn’t fly.

If you can’t treat your partner the way you wanna be treated, you not high value, you not marriage material, you not relationship material: you are a liability. (Not you specifically but in general)
That’s my litmus test for a good partner. I don’t ask anything of my friends, family and lover that I’m not willing to do for them to the best of my ability. I expect the same from them. And if I’m gonna cut out good dikk, good vibes and interactions from other men, then my partner needs to be willing to do the same with other women.

But you’re free to have your hot take on this. I can respect it even if I vehemently disagree with it:yeshrug:





Women are not on par with men. That's a scientifically proven fact.

Now with that being said, I wasn't saying it in a way to down women as a lot of men might say it. I simply brought up that fact to illustrate that men and women have very different motivators in life.

I'm not necessarily arguing the morals of cheating. Men cheat, women cheat, so to me there isn't any sense in tying that to any one gender.

All I'm saying is that a man's motivation for cheating is different than a woman's motivation for cheating.

Men crave new p*ssy. We do. I don't know why. But we do. Even the most faithful of husbands has at some point in his life craved new p*ssy.

And then most men aint the most faithful, so us regular mortals probably get that craving relatively regularly.

That right there is our motivation for cheating, 9 times out of 10.

A woman can definitely crave dikk. But 9 times out of 10, when a woman cheats, craving new dikk aint the reason

Again I'm trying to illustrate the difference in what motivates us. As long as women try to attribute yalls motivators to us, or you equate our motivators when they aren't even close to being the same, the longer it will take you to understand where mens heads are at.

Now as far as cheating being a conscious choice of course it is. I would never tell you that a woman pulled her panties down in front of me and I just couldn't resist, like I literally didn't have the willpower to do it

Nah, we resist what we want to resist. Even with our natural hardwired inclination and desire for new p*ssy, we all have free will to choose whether or not we are going to indulge.

So I'm not using the differences between gender to try to give men wiggle room to absolve us of responsibility.

No I'm just trying to say that if yall really want to have this conversation, then it would do you well to recognize what mens motivators are and what is happening in our heads.
 

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With all due respect the point he was making went completely over your head.
It didn't. He told her to try to save her marriage even if that meant going to the extent of creating a lane for him to have sex with other women with her knowledge and permission. And her having sex with someone on the side too.

He regularly tells women to take whatever they can get in terms of marriage and encourages women to belive the title of marriage is more important over everything including happiness and love. He tells women all the time they don’t need to love their husbands which is exactly what he told her.
 
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I understand why the show is successful but I also know better. His show is for people who don't have money and have rich people fantasies. Rich people aren't perfect with the old man with the 21 year old wife stories he sells.

I follow another youtuber who is HVM; self made black millionaire and his new girlfriend who he is thinking of wifing is short, chubby and in her late 30s. He champions Kevin a lot and doesn't even follow "KS rules."

Men date all kind of women and like I said earlier proximity counts for a lot.





Relationships are built on chance, coincidence, proximity like you said. Meaning that a man can say all he likes is short women and next thing you know he with a tall women.

That's what happened with me. Always been attracted to short chics and then wound up getting with a tall woman, who is almost as tall as me.

We saw that Kevin dont even follow Kevin's rules after all that talk about not getting with single mothers and then when he thought that Sixthegoddis was interested, he threw that rule out the window. Why? Cause he was attracted to her.

Rules mean nothing and that goes for either gender.

I've never paid attention to the rules that women spout. My woman said she thought she was gonna get with a 6 ft tall light skinned dude but I'm 5'8 dark chocolate. So there goes that rule huh? :russ:
 

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OP Why don't you spend this energy on your husband?
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Women are not on par with men. That's a scientifically proven fact.

Now with that being said, I wasn't saying it in a way to down women as a lot of men might say it. I simply brought up that fact to illustrate that men and women have very different motivators in life.

I'm not necessarily arguing the morals of cheating. Men cheat, women cheat, so to me there isn't any sense in tying that to any one gender.

All I'm saying is that a man's motivation for cheating is different than a woman's motivation for cheating.

Men crave new p*ssy. We do. I don't know why. But we do. Even the most faithful of husbands has at some point in his life craved new p*ssy.

And then most men aint the most faithful, so us regular mortals probably get that craving relatively regularly.

That right there is our motivation for cheating, 9 times out of 10.

A woman can definitely crave dikk. But 9 times out of 10, when a woman cheats, craving new dikk aint the reason

Again I'm trying to illustrate the difference in what motivates us. As long as women try to attribute yalls motivators to us, or you equate our motivators when they aren't even close to being the same, the longer it will take you to understand where mens heads are at.

Now as far as cheating being a conscious choice of course it is. I would never tell you that a woman pulled her panties down in front of me and I just couldn't resist, like I literally didn't have the willpower to do it

Nah, we resist what we want to resist. Even with our natural hardwired inclination and desire for new p*ssy, we all have free will to choose whether or not we are going to indulge.

So I'm not using the differences between gender to try to give men wiggle room to absolve us of responsibility.

No I'm just trying to say that if yall really want to have this conversation, then it would do you well to recognize what mens motivators are and what is happening in our heads.
If you don’t believe in equality, it’s a null and void conversation. :francis: After a while, motivators/gender shyt just sounds like excuses to me.
Either you can treat somebody the way you wanna be treated or you can’t even if you don’t consider them your equal. If you don’t wanna be cheated on, don’t cheat. That’s why the golden rule is so lovely. It cuts through the bullshyt.:yeshrug: You can use it in friendships, family interactions. Romantic relationships. Because at the end of the day, regardless of “motivations” if you don’t have the restraint to respect your partner, you don’t need to be in a relationship IMO.
But you just do you, Imma do me. Everybody wins.:yeshrug:
 

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He also told her to create an arrangement so he could cheat.

If you as a man don't want a monogamous relationship than don't enter into one. Don’t promise your god, your friends, family and children you will be faith if that's not your intention.

:gucci:

Aren't ya'll supposed to be the ones running the show? If ya'll are the leaders why are you not saying what it is up front instead of sneaking around on some low life liar shyt?

i just explained that unfortunately if a man likes a woman odds say she would want to date him exclusively in order for things to progress, so he will have to act accordingly, If he likes her.
I don’t remember him saying to cheat, (not disagreeing with you) but he did say try counseling especially if the dude apologized.

the bottom line is men usually in those positions tend to want their cake and to eat it too, they can do so and that’s the reality, whether you agree or disagree, just like it’s fine ass women who use they looks to get over on gullible dudes, is it right no, but it’s the game
 

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Relationships are built on chance, coincidence, proximity like you said. Meaning that a man can say all he likes is short women and next thing you know he with a tall women.

That's what happened with me. Always been attracted to short chics and then wound up getting with a tall woman, who is almost as tall as me.

We saw that Kevin dont even follow Kevin's rules after all that talk about not getting with single mothers and then when he thought that Sixthegoddis was interested, he threw that rule out the window. Why? Cause he was attracted to her.

Rules mean nothing and that goes for either gender.

I've never paid attention to the rules that women spout. My woman said she thought she was gonna get with a 6 ft tall light skinned dude but I'm 5'8 dark chocolate. So there goes that rule huh? :russ:
Pretty much this. You gotta take him with a grain of salt. He's really milking gender wars though. The fact that people are eating it up is scary though.
 
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