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i just explained that unfortunately if a man likes a woman odds say she would want to date him exclusively in order for things to progress, so he will have to act accordingly, If he likes her.
I don’t remember him saying to cheat, (not disagreeing with you) but he did say try counseling especially if the dude apologized.

the bottom line is men usually in those positions tend to want their cake and to eat it too, they can do so and that’s the reality, whether you agree or disagree, just like it’s fine ass women who use they looks to get over on gullible dudes, is it right no, but it’s the game

IDK it just seems so unnecessary. Who gon blame anyone if they come home and they spouse in the bed with someone else and they unleash the yopper on em :yeshrug:

yeah they gonna have to go sit down for some years but everyone gon be like I understand :hubie:

A smart man whether they got 1 or 1 million dollars is gonna try to diminish the foolishness and danger he places himself in unless he has some sort of inherent deathwish.
 
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If you don’t believe in equality, it’s a null and void conversation. :francis: After a while, motivators/gender shyt just sounds like excuses to me.
Either you can treat somebody the way you wanna be treated or you can’t even if you don’t consider them your equal. If you don’t wanna be cheated on, don’t cheat. That’s why the golden rule is so lovely. It cuts through the bullshyt.:yeshrug: You can use it in friendships, family interactions. Romantic relationships. Because at the end of the day, regardless of “motivations” if you don’t have the restraint to respect your partner, you don’t need to be in a relationship IMO.
But you just do you, Imma do me. Everybody wins.:yeshrug:





You letting these western white women's feminist movement take hold of your mind, deceiving you into thinking that a woman is on the same level of a man when that's not true.

I mean its a natural fact. Men ain't equal to yall when it comes to having children and child rearing. So why does it bother yall when someone tells you that you are not equal to a man on other things?

I believe in the golden rule too but you are doing yourself a great disservice if you think that you shouldn't have to "waste time" understanding men.

That's one of the biggest issues that a lot of us men have with yall. Yall convince yourselves that you understand us when you really don't. Then when we try to explain ourselves to yall, you ignore us because you don't feel it's important.

But if men decided that we didn't need to understand women nor do we want to understand yall, women would cry bloody murder.

That right there is an example of the inequality that exists.

I'm with you. The golden rule is what we should all follow. But with that being said, I also realize that I have to see things as they are, not as I want them to be.
 
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Pretty much this. You gotta take him with a grain of salt. He's really milking gender wars though. The fact that people are eating it up is scary though.



The scariest part to me is the fact that this dude obviously ain't completely on the male side of the kinsey scale and yet a lot of these dudes can't see it.

That nikka is an effeminate bisexual dude at best, if he aint all the way gay. But brehs act like they can't see it.

They're willing to look past it as long as he keeps going in on yall women. :mjlol:
 

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...does that give you the green light to cheat? Saw this KS video and he tells the woman that since she has a HV man that he's entitled to cheat and she should get over it. Thoughts?


No one is entitled to cheat. Cheating implies lying, deceit, and isn’t something a real man would do.

A high value man would dictate the terms of his relationship that would allow him to see other women - if his SO doesn’t like it she can take it or leave it.

A man is entitled to see other women IF that is how he runs his relationships and his woman is fully aware of that. She shouldn’t have to “get over” anything other than when she agrees to his terms to enter the relationship.

A cheating person has something to hide and isn’t high value. Simple as that.
 

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He's kicking that old school knowledge right there and I might be inclined to somewhat agree.

I think something that has been lost over the decades is the fact that marriage is a business. Yes its love, emotions etc but its also an arrangement that is meant to benefit both sides.

Traditionally the woman is taken care of and provided for while the man gets to have someone to procreate with and who is gonna raise his seed.

Back in medieval days kings got with women to continue their line. All that love stuff? Yeah ok we'll worry about that later. In the meantime can she have healthy babies? And same with the women. Is he a man of means, can he protect and provide? Okay cool we'll worry about that love stuff later.

I think that while we shouldn't necessarily swing the pendulum back TOO far, that there are some important lessons that we can take from that.

To me, love is an emotion, it can't be scientifically measured so its an intangible. I can learn to love someone. If I become friends with her and we mesh well and grow close, I will grow to love her.

These are the hard truths that women don't be wanting to hear but it may do yall well to take it back to old school for a minute. All this waiting on this perfect man to come along aint working out for yall any more than the men who are waiting on this perfect woman to come along.

Yall folks better quit trippin and just learn to be friends and see if each other has important TANGIBLE qualities that can make a long distance relationship work, see if you can develop a friendship and if you can, build on that.

That's my suggestion. But yall aint ready for that yet tho :manny:

So your cool with having a life with someone who has no affection for you? Your talking about friendship. He has never said a thing about that.

Going for a man just purely based off of what he can do for you as a woman is what gold diggers and sugar babies do.

Any other time ya'll would shyt on those types of women. Now its the ideal model for a wife? Stop

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So your cool with having a life with someone who has no affection for you? Your talking about friendship. He has never said a thing about that.

Going for a man just purely based off of what he can do for you as a woman is what gold diggers and sugar babies do.

Any other time ya'll would shyt on those types of women. Now its the ideal model for a wife? Stop

:deadmanny:

I and a majority of the men I know can't "learn" to love a women. Men as visual creatures know pretty quickly if they even have the propensity to love a woman. You can't learn to love a woman you aren't attracted to. It could be some fat white women who treats me like the king of the world. I will never ever ever love her:mjlol:
 

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i just explained that unfortunately if a man likes a woman odds say she would want to date him exclusively in order for things to progress, so he will have to act accordingly, If he likes her.
I don’t remember him saying to cheat, (not disagreeing with you) but he did say try counseling especially if the dude apologized.

the bottom line is men usually in those positions tend to want their cake and to eat it too, they can do so and that’s the reality, whether you agree or disagree, just like it’s fine ass women who use they looks to get over on gullible dudes, is it right no, but it’s the game
Again, how you can men claim to be leaders when they don’t have the heart to even be honest? What is the point of going through the motions and building something when the lies will eventually catch up with you and destroy everything you built. Just seems like a cowards way to approach the situation.

Being a leaders means accepting responsibility.
 
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So your cool with having a life with someone who has no affection for you? Your talking about friendship. He has never said a thing about that.

Going for a man just purely based off of what he can do for you as a woman is what gold diggers and sugar babies do.

Any other time ya'll would shyt on those types of women. Now its the ideal model for a wife? Stop

:deadmanny:





Well of course I'm saying something different than what Kevin Samuels would say. I disagree with his stance on many things. I'm saying he isn't completely wrong there but my reasons are different than his are.

I'm not saying a woman should go after a man purely because of what he can do for her. I'm saying that it should definitely be factored in. Just like I'm saying that what a woman can do for a man should be factored in when we're choosing yall.

This isn't anything new. And I didn't say it could work if there's no affection at all. But I am saying that having that close friendship and attraction can progress into more.

After all... what is love?

How do you define "love" black pearl?
 

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You letting these western white women's feminist movement take hold of your mind, deceiving you into thinking that a woman is on the same level of a man when that's not true.

I mean its a natural fact. Men ain't equal to yall when it comes to having children and child rearing. So why does it bother yall when someone tells you that you are not equal to a man on other things?

I believe in the golden rule too but you are doing yourself a great disservice if you think that you shouldn't have to "waste time" understanding men.

That's one of the biggest issues that a lot of us men have with yall. Yall convince yourselves that you understand us when you really don't. Then when we try to explain ourselves to yall, you ignore us because you don't feel it's important.

But if men decided that we didn't need to understand women nor do we want to understand yall, women would cry bloody murder.

That right there is an example of the inequality that exists.

I'm with you. The golden rule is what we should all follow. But with that being said, I also realize that I have to see things as they are, not as I want them to be.
It’s not claiming to understand men or a desire to not want to understand them. I’m simply dismissive of anyone who thinks I’m beneath them. That transcends gender. Someone who doesn’t respect me as an equal doesn’t deserve my regard or analysis. In fact, I would encourage people to never entertain those who view you like that in a serious way. There’s not a lot to talk about if a common baseline of mutual respect can’t be established.
I could argue that historically, prior to the advent of agriculture, most soceties were actually egalitarian.:francis: The destruction of the feminine divine in Western culture and its replacement with homosexual religious cults (men worshiping only male deities) that have been perverted into male-oriented rule is an open secret amongst a lot of evolutionary biologists, and historians, and anthropologists in spite of what people have been led to believe but I’m not gonna get into that b/c we not ready.
Meanwhile earliest societies were egalitarian in nature, women were waaaay more powerful b/c cooperation was necessary for survival instead of ego. Two main things they’ve all but erased from the tapestry of history: black people and women.

I’ll just leave this here as something to think about before we throw around ideas of who is “brainwashed”:francis:
Early men and women were equal, say scientists
Geez, you gon drag me back into my anthropology days...people are slowly learning that a lotta shyt we were commonly led to believe aint what it seems.
 
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Something I’m curious about is why people who want to cheat WANT relationships.

Im not talking about the people who go into relationships with the best intentions and then get caught up. Nor am I talking about two petty, immature individuals who want to get back at each other.

Im talking about the men or women who literally feel ENTITLED to loyalty, respect, love and honesty from their partners.....but also feel entitled to side dikk or side chicks.

Why not just stay single? And keep your assets safer as well. There’s a psychological element to this shyt too.
 

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Relationships are built on chance, coincidence, proximity like you said. Meaning that a man can say all he likes is short women and next thing you know he with a tall women.

That's what happened with me. Always been attracted to short chics and then wound up getting with a tall woman, who is almost as tall as me.

We saw that Kevin dont even follow Kevin's rules after all that talk about not getting with single mothers and then when he thought that Sixthegoddis was interested, he threw that rule out the window. Why? Cause he was attracted to her.

Rules mean nothing and that goes for either gender.

I've never paid attention to the rules that women spout. My woman said she thought she was gonna get with a 6 ft tall light skinned dude but I'm 5'8 dark chocolate. So there goes that rule huh? :russ:


What you guys are stating is called "exceptions" an yes there are "exceptions" to every rule, however you cannot promote the exception to a general group because you would be selling false hope. The sixgoddess is a "exception" most women arent sixthgoddess, just like most women with kids arent Ciara who was able to link up with Russell wilson who had far more childless options.

Most of those women want hvm men, those men have options and most are not going to settle for babymoma's if they dont have too. Its like Ks says, if you're 35 with kids but your a 8, he can find a 27 year old women just as pretty with no kids.

Listen I married someone who was older then me an had a kid, I dont recomend that, shyt even my own wouldnt recommend that however my wife has some extraordinary circumstances like her child's father had been deport many years prior to me meeting her, so I had never to deal with also, also she's really pretty, fit, feminine and hard work, when we met she was 5'7, 127lbs w/23 inch waist @27 years old and that was after already having a kid.

Prior to her I never dated a women with kids...ever..that's an "exception".
 

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Something I’m curious about is why people who want to cheat WANT relationships.

Im not talking about the people who go into relationships with the best intentions and then get caught up. Nor am I talking about two petty, immature individuals who want to get back at each other.

Im talking about the men or women who literally feel ENTITLED to loyalty, respect, love and honesty from their partners.....but also feel entitled to side dikk or side chicks.

Why not just stay single? And keep your assets safer as well. There’s a psychological element to this shyt too.


It's simple, powerful people tend to want it all and money brings access, if guys makes 300k he want a women who can provide a stable family and pass a legacy.........however some women cant fulfill or arent built for both roles as far as being a homemaker and bedroom shaker..and the bedroom shaker isnt built to be a homemaker so they go an get both if they can afford it.
 

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This. How does one consider themselves the leader yet has to sneak and hide? Never understood that logic. Seems so backwards.

Most high-earning men are focused on goals and building. That focus can come off cold in some areas but it helps explain how they become successful in the first place.

Asking permission to have extramarital sex is a major distraction and a headache that they would prefer to do without if possible. Nevermind the act, just broaching the topic invites your spouse to be an insecure wreck for at least the next few months (not all women of course, just explaining the logic).

If it were more socially acceptable I believe we'd see a lot more extramarital sex and fewer secrets. At least with the middle class on up.

I can't speak for bum ass dudes. I'm not sure why they believe they have the right to step out.
 

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It's simple, powerful people tend to want it all and money brings access, if guys makes 300k he want a women who can provide a stable family and pass a legacy.........however some women cant fulfill or arent built for both roles as far as being a homemaker and bedroom shaker..and the bedroom shaker isnt built to be a homemaker so they go an get both if they can afford it.

I think what she getting at is if thats the case why not spell that out initially.

I have my polyamorous phase before I got tired of juggling several women and I would tell them straight up I'm seeing other folks you either cool with it or you not but thats the play here :yeshrug:

I personally don't understand cheating, especially if you are viewed as the prize it said relationship
 
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