They hate to read it lol. Can’t wait to up a woman’s body count so they can shame her for it.You read what you wanna read.
I asked you if men who have sex easily are regarded with less respect than men who have to "work for it." It was a rhetorical question because we both know that you guys don't respect them less.
That just proves the point that it's really not about "work." It's about your idea about sex and how women should conduct themselves in regards to sexual behavior.
And I don't see women as victims. I am just using logic.
Women with low body count = good
Women with high body count = bad
Therefore the sex with men decreases the value of women. Therefore sexual activity with men is socially toxic to women.
Ya'll hate to hear it like that but if one is true so is the other.
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Nah female hypergamy is grass is always greener mentality my dear and, women constantly seeking to fukk vertically can rack up bodies just as easily as men seeking to fukk other women.Both genders have different biological drives to be promiscuous but both also have the choice to control those urges to build healthy and safe environments for themselves and their offspring.
For women It’s not about quantity, although operating in that framework can indeed rack up the numbers.
Its about the constant search for better quality. That’s a base biological impetus within women. The reason culturally they say “she’s never satisfied”. It’s the pursuit of the “better male partner” and it can drive women to constantly be on the lookout for the next best thing or dikk if she doesn’t make the choice to control herself.
It’s the reason some evolutionary anthropologists once theorized that women make sounds during sex to alert male competitors. The reason why women get turned on by men fighting over her. The “deez hoes ain’t loyal” syndrome...If you will.
Promiscuity works differently in men and women. In men it’s used to maximize reproduction. Fukk as much as possible. In women it’s biological damage control to ensure she is procreating with the best males during her peak reproductive years. Taken to extremes, either can be ruthless with men having harems, and women being stone cold with it as soon as the bigger, better guy comes along. However, neither actions are conducive to maximizing quality of life for offspring, so we as a species eventually learned this thing called monogamy...or as one of my anthropologist friends calls it “evolutionary settling”
Basically, men fukking everybody and women leaving men to fukk the next best thing resulted in chaos for the offspring their biological impulses were trying to get them to produce. War, death, all kinds of shyt. So we learned to strike a balance. Men said, “there will always be warm holes to fukk, but this chick actually improves my life so I’ll chill.
Women said “there’s always going to be somebody else that could make my thighs shake but he’s safe and provides stability for my offspring, so Imma chill.”
Once again, as I stated before in this thread...I only make men aware of this dynamic in females because many like trying to justify their cheating off a biological basis, but wanna get incensed when confronted with the fact that women acting on their biology could result in similar cheating issues albeit for different reasons. Regardless, both men and women have to make a commitment to overcome their desires to maximize their quality of life for themselves and their offspring. Or...don’t marry.
It’s really simple.)
"there will always be warm holes to fukk, but this chick actually improves my life so I’ll chill"
Another example of maturity.. You'll notice that people who use this method of thinking, usually have they shyt in order..
We are cool but when I tried to @ you I couldn’t find your screen name.Damn Books I thought we was cool, u just gone “the other poster” me like that?
And 2 different items on the same scale is only equal in weight but unequal in everything else so no they are not equal. A man and woman are equally human but are not equal in any other way. And no one here was dehumanizing women. There is nothing disrespectful about saying 2 things are not equal. Not being equal does not equate to superiority of one over the other.
When is the last time you went on a first date and paid for the entire date?
How often does that happen vs the man paying for the whole date?
How often do you or any other woman in this thread approach a man you find attractive vs hoping he approaches you?
Men with jobs/careers have no problem dating a woman who brings way less to the table. How many of you career women in this thread will date a man who makes 1/4 of what you make?
As for the equality analogy, it only works depending on your measurement. But I was talking about overall value. If the mass is the same regardless of the objects, other differences don’t really matter. And they certainly don’t matter when it comes to making value judgements about one over the other like saying one is better than the other. But men seem so obsessed over this and conflate “difference” with value.
As for your questions, I could refute them by asking you, who will risk their lives and potentially die in childbirth to carry your baby, have her body changed forever and risk having her partner lose attraction to her for even making that sacrifice or as she grows older?
I mean you talking about paying for dates but the origins of male courtship comes from men trying to sweeten the deal to lure women into marriages that benefited men more traditionally. Because if you don’t pay initially, a lot of women simply don’t want the trappings of traditional marriage where traditionally she is expected to do everything in the house and with the kids and tolerate his disrespect AND take care of elders, and keep her mouth shut AND possibly have to contribute financially as well AND put up with his mistresses and families across town... I mean when we ask who is bringing what to the table, being a traditional housewife and mother is NOT bringing less to the table. In a lot of cases it ends up being more.
Which is why as soon as women had opportunities outside of marriage they started delaying that shyt and demanding more from their unions which is where we are today from what I can see.
Nah female hypergamy is grass is always greener mentality my dear and, women constantly seeking to fukk vertically can rack up bodies just as easily as men seeking to fukk other women.
For women It’s not about quantity, although operating in that framework can indeed rack up the numbers.
Its about the constant search for better quality. That’s a base biological impetus within women. The reason culturally they say “she’s never satisfied”. It’s the pursuit of the “better male partner” and it can drive women to constantly be on the lookout for the next best thing or dikk if she doesn’t make the choice to control herself.
It’s the reason some evolutionary anthropologists once theorized that women make sounds during sex to alert male competitors. The reason why women get turned on by men fighting over her. The “deez hoes ain’t loyal” syndrome...If you will.
Promiscuity works differently in men and women. In men it’s used to maximize reproduction. Fukk as much as possible. In women it’s biological damage control to ensure she is procreating with the best males during her peak reproductive years. Taken to extremes, either can be ruthless with men having harems, and women being stone cold with it as soon as the bigger, better guy comes along. However, neither actions are conducive to maximizing quality of life for offspring, so we as a species eventually learned this thing called monogamy...or as one of my anthropologist friends calls it “evolutionary settling”
Basically, men fukking everybody and women leaving men to fukk the next best thing resulted in chaos for the offspring their biological impulses were trying to get them to produce. War, death, all kinds of shyt. So we learned to strike a balance. Men said, “there will always be warm holes to fukk, but this chick actually improves my life so I’ll chill.
Women said “there’s always going to be somebody else that could make my thighs shake but he’s safe and provides stability for my offspring, so Imma chill.”
Once again, as I stated before in this thread...I only make men aware of this dynamic in females because many like trying to justify their cheating off a biological basis, but wanna get incensed when confronted with the fact that women acting on their biology could result in similar cheating issues albeit for different reasons. Regardless, both men and women have to make a commitment to overcome their desires to maximize their quality of life for themselves and their offspring. Or...don’t marry.
It’s really simple.
Well stated as always
You read what you wanna read.
I asked you if men who have sex easily are regarded with less respect than men who have to "work for it." It was a rhetorical question because we both know that you guys don't respect them less.
That just proves the point that it's really not about "work." It's about your idea about sex and how women should conduct themselves in regards to sexual behavior.
And I don't see women as victims. I am just using logic.
Women with low body count = good
Women with high body count = bad
Therefore the sex with men decreases the value of women. Therefore sexual activity with men is socially toxic to women.
Ya'll hate to hear it like that but if one is true so is the other.
I said nothing bout a man having to work for it. If anything I said the opposite, as I was speaking on men who get it easier than the majority of men.
And you definitely paint women as victims. Women are never wrong in your eyes in any of these discussions. All of your posts defend women no matter what. We’re discussing why women who sleep with a lot of men is not seen in the same light as men who sleep with a lot of women and providing examples to illustrate our point and you are moving goal posts all over the place if not flat out putting words into our mouths. All to paint women as the victims.
Nowhere in society are people praised for being able to do something they didn’t have to stand out to be able to do. Arguing with reality don’t stop it from being reality. You take these debates as personal attacks on your own actions and thought processes too much.
I don't care about being right. I just enjoy a good dialogue sir
Have a good night
A man knows women are emotional and irrational in most cases. A man has to do what he has to do to keep his family together by any means neccessary. And sometimes that means cheating and making sure your woman doesn't find out. Because she will be irrational and emotional about it.
In no way am I saying she wouldn't have the right to be. What Im saying is that women will be irrational and emotional even when you are 100% honest about the fact you are seeing other people. Even if they start out cool with the idea,or agree because you are "high value". They will eventually switch up in the end once their feelings are involved. So if you find a good woman,its your job to keep her by any mans neccessary. A "high value" man grows on trees,they hand out money to idiots like candy these days. But a woman with a high value womb is hard to come by in this day and age. You have to do what you have to do to keep this woman until you are able to fully be faithful,and that will mean lying. Telling her the truth and her accepting it,would make her low value.
In no way am I saying she wouldn't have the right to be. What Im saying is that women will be irrational and emotional even when you are 100% honest about the fact you are seeing other people. Even if they start out cool with the idea,or agree because you are "high value". They will eventually switch up in the end once their feelings are involved. So if you find a good woman,its your job to keep her by any mans neccessary. A "high value" man grows on trees,they hand out money to idiots like candy these days. But a woman with a high value womb is hard to come by in this day and age. You have to do what you have to do to keep this woman until you are able to fully be faithful,and that will mean lying. Telling her the truth and her accepting it,would make her low value.
We are cool but when I tried to @ you I couldn’t find your screen name.
As for the equality analogy, it only works depending on your measurement. But I was talking about overall value. If the mass is the same regardless of the objects, other differences don’t really matter. And they certainly don’t matter when it comes to making value judgements about one over the other like saying one is better than the other. But men seem so obsessed over this and conflate “difference” with value.
As for your questions, I could refute them by asking you, who will risk their lives and potentially die in childbirth to carry your baby, have her body changed forever and risk having her partner lose attraction to her for even making that sacrifice or as she grows older?
You can’t refute a question by avoiding giving honest answers because they don’t fit your argument and deflecting to counter questions that have nothing to do with the questions at hand.
What does paying for a first date or approaching a man you find attractive have to do with childbirth or anything else you said?
If men and women were equal, why are men expected to do certain things and women aren’t? Women don’t avoid paying for dates because they’re thinking of childbirth, you just don’t want to spend your money. And none of what you said had anything with approaching a man. Why don’t women make the first move when they see a man they want instead of waiting for him to do it? Because y’all are terrified of rejection.
Now you want to go back to defending traditional gender roles as a deflection when you’ve spent this whole thread arguing they’re archaic.
Dates in 2021 have nothing to do with the original motives of courtship thousands of years ago. It’s just 2 people getting to know each other and seeing if they have a connection worth exploring. But when it’s time to pay, it’s back to traditional roles.
Women have their own money and are independent nowadays, so you don’t have to wait for a man to come to you. So what’s stopping you from approaching the handsome man you see and making a move? Now traditional gender roles come back into play to hide your fear of rejection.
Bottom line is you expect men to be men, which does not correlate with men and women being equal. If men and women were equal, you would not have an expectation for men do do certain things for no other reason than because he’s the man and you’re the woman.
How can men care about their women and community but literally make it half their life's mission to soil their own women?
Why don't they just say their sexist? Why try to use half ass logic and reason to try to explain something that just 100% sexual bias. They need to own their truth lol.
I said nothing bout a man having to work for it. If anything I said the opposite, as I was speaking on men who get it easier than the majority of men.
And you definitely paint women as victims. Women are never wrong in your eyes in any of these discussions. All of your posts defend women no matter what. We’re discussing why women who sleep with a lot of men is not seen in the same light as men who sleep with a lot of women and providing examples to illustrate our point and you are moving goal posts all over the place if not flat out putting words into our mouths. All to paint women as the victims.
Nowhere in society are people praised for being able to do something they didn’t have to stand out to be able to do. Arguing with reality don’t stop it from being reality. You take these debates as personal attacks on your own actions and thought processes too much.
So you're gonna do everything but address the post and try to make it personal? This thread has nothing to do with me.
I like debate because I think sharing ideas expansions intellect. I will sir up a conversation and play devil's advocate just to challenge thought processes. Been doing it for years.
You sound emotional. I guess hearing ideas that you don't agree with ruffles you. I haven't been disrespectful or personally insulted you. But here you go...
It's cool breh. I'm sorry you feel that way.
Does that also apply to women, as far as having to lie and be deceitful to keep a man?
A woman should have no reason to lie,even you admitted men and women aren't built the same. A woman should just move on if she is unhappy or unsatisfied by the man she is with.
If I cheat it doesn't make me less of a man,but if you cheat it makes you less of a woman.
If I cheat it doesn't make my woman less of a woman,but if you cheat it makes your man less of a man.
These are the dynamics.
So you're gonna do everything but address the post and try to make it personal? This thread has nothing to do with me.
I like debate because I think sharing ideas expansions intellect. I will sir up a conversation and play devil's advocate just to challenge thought processes. Been doing it for years.
You sound emotional. I guess hearing ideas that you don't agree with ruffles you. I haven't been disrespectful or personally insulted you. But here you go...
It's cool breh. I'm sorry you feel that way.
Where did I disrespect you or not address the post?
But if she has a HVM and she will be hard pressed to find another to replace him but isn't happy sexually would it not be better to satisfy her urges and keep her family intact rather than split her family up?
Where did I disrespect you or not address the post?
I didn't say you were disrespectful. I said I didn't do anything to warrant a personal attack such as disrespect you. I wrote a whole post agreeing with your logic and you ignored it to say I "always" do this and that. That's how people argue who just wanna blame. I'm sorry you feel that way but asking these "how I say that?" type questions is so unproductive and circular. I'd rather not.
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