Illimatic's influence on Pac

[Boonapalist]

Pac was influenced by Nas up until his death. Nas is the reason Pac made “Me And My Girlfriend”.

Your not telling me anything I didnt already know. That’s a fact we all know. Illmatic influencing MATW is a reach imo. The lyricism on MATW and Illmatic are two completely different types.

Illmatic was filled with complex schemes, deep metaphors, and similes. While MATW was direct and straight forward with use of alliteration and assonance.

But who knows maybe Nas did influence Pac in 94. I personally think Nas was probably Pac’s favorite rapper out of his contemporaries.Him constantly bumping Illmatic. I Gave You Power influenced Me and My Girlfriend, calling Nas the ringleader in Bomb 1st and he was bumping IWW in Vegas before he died.

 

[Bickin Back Being Bool]

Ready To Die changed the entire game, no one was spared

Fixed

 

[SirBiatch]

Pac stans doing their best Clitset impression

 

[Danie84]

If only the 2 GOATs went to a studio after they resolved their issues at MTV in NYC

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Different. Cause Nas till this day never said that Pharoah Monch influenced that song and actually flat out denied it. The Outlaws literally came out and said Pac was directly influenced by Nas to make the song.

Where did you hear or read about Nas denying Organized Konfusion influenced him? I don't even know if he was directly asked or not, but I find it hard to believe somebody as creative as Nas wouldn't be even a little bit influenced by another creative group from Queens who also happened to be working with Large Professor around the same time Nas was.

 

[tuckgod]

2pac was working on Thug Life and MATW in 93 before Illmatic even dropped. So I doubt it had that much influence on him lyrically.

Your assumption would be incorrect.

 

[spliz]

Where did you hear or read about Nas denying Organized Konfusion influenced him? I don't even know if he was directly asked or not, but I find it hard to believe somebody as creative as Nas wouldn't be even a little bit influenced by another creative group from Queens who also happened to be working with Large Professor around the same time Nas was.

Fam Nas didnt just say he wasnt influenced. He said he hadnt even heard of them up until that point. Whether he was lying or not is somethin different.

 

[Sane]

Pac was a Nas stan.

 

[mson]

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Fam Nas didnt just say he wasnt influenced. He said he hadnt even heard of them up until that point. Whether he was lying or not is somethin different.

I'd have to see or hear it myself, but Nas had to be high, purposely evasive, or just flat out lying his ass off to say he never heard of a group from his own burrough that was out at the same time he was, and was fukkin with the same producers he was. O.C. was signed by MC Serch along with Nas, and O.C. was practically a member of Organized around this time. He was down with them before he even became a DITC member.

Shyt, Pac himself even shouted out Organized Konfusion on his album, but somehow Nas never heard of them?

I'm callin Ducktales on Nasir here. Maybe he didn't hear Stray Bullet, but aint no way he never heard of OK being from Queens during that era.

 

[pointproven214]

correct me if im wrong but did'nt stray bullet come out before i gave u power and me and my girlfriend.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

correct me if im wrong did'nt stray bullet come out before i gave u power and me and my girlfriend.

Yeah. Extinction Agenda came out 2 years before IWW and Makavelli.

 

[delnegro]

Props to Organized but Stray Bullet wasn't a song on everyones radar like that, not all hip hop heads were on to it like that so I believe Esco. It actually got more attention AFTER I Gave You Power. I was listening to D-Demo, S&S, Chill Will from the Eastside, Doo-Wop and other mixtape dj's and don't recall any of them featuring it.

 

[New Jeruzalem Journalist]

Props to Organized but Stray Bullet wasn't a song on everyones radar like, not all hip hop heads were on to it like that so I believe Esco. It actually got more attention AFTER I Gave You Power.

Yeah, I agree it's possible he never heard the song itself before he wrote I Gave You Power, but he can't claim he was unaware that OK even existed. If you're working with the same people who were producing and publishing your album, who live in the same area as you, that ain't likely.

Organized wasn't big on a mainstream level by any means, but they def got respect from their peers and were known in the industry. Pac shouted them out, Biggie was on a track with Prince Po, I even remember them being on the cover of Rap Pages. They weren't some no names trying to get on.

 

[FreshAIG]

Everyone was influenced by Illmatic.