Simple. You like Ironman way more than I do.
:peeumad:
Agreed :psalute:
Nah. Sales don't matter in determining the quality of those singles. Or do you think Funkdafied was better than It Ain't Hard to Tell and The World Is Yours?
Just for the record, my favorite album of all-time is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. I love Ironman. But you're just simply on a mission to attempt to discredit Illmatic.
It always makes me laugh when people pretend like Illmatic isn't obviously one of the greatest albums in rap. It's like: 'is your ear busted or something?' Its greatness is obvious as fukk. Perfect beats, perfect vocals, perfect rhymes. The ENTIRE time. Nobody's ever pulled that off. Not to say that there aren't great albums on a similar level, but they all have at least one less-great moment. Illmatic is the only flawless rap album imo. That's precisely why it's looked at as the GOAT album.
"Memory Lane" isn't a 'better' song than "Who am I", but Illmatic has 8 other Memory Lane/goat-level records and zero filler. Doggystyle doesn't.
lots of them. To be honest, rap is full of fantastic debuts. The real question is: what are GOAT-level sophomore albums? Number one to me is easily Supreme Clientele. Then I'd through Low End Theory in there.
cmon breh
Thriller is 9 tracks. 9 tracks is not an EP.
and your list is good. But none of them have the fluid flawlessness that Illmatic has.
cmon breh. I fukk with Wu heavy but they were NEVER on Nas's level when it came to the pen. Nas vocally is also superior to everyone not called Method Man. Illmatic has flawless production. Ironman doesn't. The vast majority of those beats are nowhere as good as the ones on Illmatic. You can already see where this is going.
Just for the record, my favorite album of all-time is Only Built 4 Cuban Linx. I love Ironman. But you're just simply on a mission to attempt to discredit Illmatic.
The thread title reads "Illmatic deserves all the praise", and you come in here talking about every other album possible to take away from Illmatic. Worst part is, you started your rant saying "I love Illmatic".
Excellent, considering the fact you "love Illmatic" we're all on the same page in a thread about Illmatic... now have a seat.
and you cant beat me in an argument cuz yall lack the passion for te subject.
Sales do matter when the term “classic” gets thrown around cuz that means a wide number of people deen it a great product. I can call the cold vein a classic but if i said its a classic in the same vein as the chronic everyone would look at me weird cuz maybe 100k people heard the cold vein vs 10 million hearint the chronic.
Dodged a bullet :prodigylol:
Simple. You like Ironman way more than I do.
I think I'm more in line with the general consensus on that too.
:peeumad:
Agreed :psalute:
Nah. Sales don't matter in determining the quality of those singles. Or do you think Funkdafied was better than It Ain't Hard to Tell and The World Is Yours?
Illmatic is a great opener for someone who has never listened to rap music but yeah R2D is my second favorite album it's more personal for sure
What songs from Illmatic produced hard enough to get play in the whip.Because it does
You gotta try harder than that
Breh, I'm up on new production more than most new nikkas, you included. I was telling cacs Metro Boomin was THE GUY before most of this board figured it out. Just like Pierre Bourne was the best new producer of 2017 and thus Carti dropped the best hip hop release of 2017. The board still hasn't figured this out yet. A great beat is a great beat is a great beat. Whether it's from the 80s, 90s, or now.
and list a bunch of randoms who were supposedly better/hotter who weren't even close.
to me.
And this was on the "worst" track on the album.
