I'm at the point where i can't take Prayer serious..

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

What about those older black folks that have “strong relationships” with god but struggle in so many ways their whole entire life?

Having a good relationship with God doesn't mean you don't struggle.

It's various reasons they're struggling. They could not be fully obedient to GOD perhaps..I don't know.

I know for a fact if I fully listened to GOD I'd be a musician who could change the world...I just know it..he has given me the vision for it...I see it clearly.



Thing is that involves me bring fully obedient..giving up drugs, living sober..being fully committed to church and to Jesus teachings.

And that is very hard to do...involves giving up stuff my flesh loves.




I can only ask for grace and mercy .

 

[Elle Seven]

My guess is there are occultists on the Coli who could explain the true nature, purpose and method of prayer if asked. Can't remember who they are but I know some are in TLR.

 

[Spiritual Stratocaster]

PRAYER INVOLVES HUMBLING YOURSELF...WHICH MANY OF US DON'T WANT TO DO.

Just getting on your knees and having faith ..many people can't do that....but it's okay ...when the LORD COMES those same people will be crying for mercy ..pissing themselves begging.

People don't realize Prayer is a relationship with GOD..

The more you do it the more you get to know his will for your life.

Many times you could be praying about an answer to a relationship problem.

But GOD is trying to tell you to perhaps stop working at that job or telling you to stop being stubborn...but you're still asking about that relationship.


And GOD is still telling you ton quit that job...or to stop being stubborn.


GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.

PRAYER is about getting to know him and his will for your life.

 

[humminbird]

Yes, I could and you could too.

It was humans who said, "slavery is wrong." Your 'deity' actually was fine with it.

It was humans that came up with lightning rods to protect buildings, your god's followers were against it because it thwarted God's supposed righteous punishments. It was why at a certain point in history churches were going down in flames from lightning, while Whore houses were perfectly safe.

It was humans that figured out what caused plagues. Your predecessor thought praying in a church would protect them. Instead, it helped spread the plague even faster.

Your religious doctrines are locked in the general morality of the time period that it was created, allowing for all sorts of dehumanizing ideologies to continue and flourish because many adherents use religious doctrine to support their objectively evil and self-serving positions. All they have to say is God = Good, so anything God is fine with must be Good. The Bible, Koran, Torah, etc says so, so it must be true.

your thinking is way too wrapped up in the
human perspective and the physical realm

no you wouldn’t this is the problem with humans today they dont want to comprehend there’s someone more powerful then them

ideas and creativity are the closest we come to divine power but you want to credit that all to humankind

the adherence to science and the church was always more a challenge to society and way of life. Which is why every religious group is against the foward culture.
we see this with the vaccines today.
your problem is more towards the church society not with the religion


the stories may be old but the themes of faith and overcoming are still universal to this day

i know personally for me faith has worked for me. Im not a part of a church or against technology. i simply know how to pray and to be open to new opportunities
but like I said in the other thread I’m not trying to convert anyone. you won’t make me stop believing either

 

[SunZoo]

Prayer is one part of the equation family.

In this conversation between you and "god", praying (every thought you think is a prayer) is the part where you TALK/send.

Meditation is the part where you LISTEN and recieve the feedback, answers and reflections of what you put out into the field.

You focus your thought on the question or the desire and then you empty your cup and wait for the wisdom to be poured into you.

 

[Dave24]

your thinking is way too wrapped up in the
human perspective and the physical realm

no you wouldn’t this is the problem with humans today they dont want to comprehend there’s someone more powerful then them

ideas and creativity are the closest we come to divine power but you want to credit that all to humankind

the adherence to science and the church was always more a challenge to society and way of life. Which is why every religious group is against the foward culture.
we see this with the vaccines today.
your problem is more towards the church society not with the religion


the stories may be old but the themes of faith and overcoming are still universal to this day

i know personally for me faith has worked for me. Im not a part of a church or against technology. i simply know how to pray and to be open to new opportunities
but like I said in the other thread I’m not trying to convert anyone. you won’t make me stop believing either

why aren't you a part of a church?

do you pray and read the Bible everyday?

 

[humminbird]

why aren't you a part of a church?

do you pray and read the Bible everyday?

where I live right now isnt my hometown
also my parents have crazy experiences with churches so we stopped going when I was young
no I don’t but i read it when I was young

 

[Dave24]

where I live right now isnt my hometown
also my parents have crazy experiences with churches so we stopped going when I was young
no I don’t but i read it when I was young

 

[Robo Squirrel]

I came im here expecting degeneracy and I wasnt disappointed

Dap+Reputation

@Flying Squirrel

Did you just disrespect me?

 

[SunZoo]

i fukk with this. but this requires you to look internally. I was programmed to look externally.

That's the real crux of the issue.

The "God" a lot of people worship was a being that the title of such. The real, true 'god' is not your sky daddy, it's more akin to electricity, or Wi-Fi even for the jits on here.

Take any computer/smart phone you can get your hands on, you can press a lot of buttons but how much can you really do, where can you really "go" without a some sort of wifi/data signal? Not much besides frustrate yourself.

God is not a man (or a woman) you need to fear or make yourself worthy of being aquainted with. It is a force to be harnessed. And if you want to harness it with any kind of precision, stop asking (praying) and start recieving the signal.

 

[Elle Seven]

Prayer is one part of the equation family.

In this conversation between you and "god", praying (every thought you think is a prayer) is the part where you TALK/send.

Meditation is the part where you LISTEN and recieve the feedback, answers and reflections of what you put out into the field.

You focus your thought on the question or the desire and then you empty your cup and wait for the wisdom to be poured into you.

That's the real crux of the issue.

The "God" a lot of people worship was a being that the title of such. The real, true 'god' is not your sky daddy, it's more akin to electricity, or Wi-Fi even for the jits on here.

Take any computer/smart phone you can get your hands on, you can press a lot of buttons but how much can you really do, where can you really "go" without a some sort of wifi/data signal? Not much besides frustrate yourself.

God is not a man (or a woman) you need to fear or make yourself worthy of being aquainted with. It is a force to be harnessed. And if you want to harness it with any kind of precision, stop asking (praying) and start recieving the signal.

Here it is.

 

[MMS]

Prayer is one part of the equation family.

In this conversation between you and "god", praying (every thought you think is a prayer) is the part where you TALK/send.

Meditation is the part where you LISTEN and recieve the feedback, answers and reflections of what you put out into the field.

You focus your thought on the question or the desire and then you empty your cup and wait for the wisdom to be poured into you.

i believe you should go in a more counterintuitive direction

assume God knows, then wait. And if he desires it, what you want will appear to you.

 

[SunZoo]

i believe you should go in a more counterintuitive direction

assume God knows, then wait. And if he desires it, what you want will appear to you.

The field, or "god" contains all of creation, so yes, assume that whatever it is that you desire already exists and only needs to be brought into FOCUS. As I said before, all thoughts are technically prayers. The art of praying is harnessing the human powers of focused intention upon what desires to recieve, your job is to direct the current of the force.

But you are not dealing with 'his' moral compass, you're dealing with your own from the causal level of mind. You can use father figures or dieties as place holders but don't be surprised when the same "god" force is being used by people who have no quibbles while selling you limitations that they are comfortable with.

 

[kevm3]

John 9:31​

Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth.

 

[MrLogic]

this is why i left the church.

Don't forget random bible passages.

always the goal post will be moved.


church never been effective just a place where poor folk/ racist folk (white Christians) cope with life