"I'm Bothered By Guys Taking Pay Cuts To Try & Win A Championship" -Larry Bird

[Bean]

 

[InvictusAeternusEternus]

Basically... I know Allen should go where he can thinks he can get another ring. But he already has a ring with that same formula (even if via trade). So... why would people clap for him to go to the Heat to win ANOTHER ring just because there's an offer there? What's to stop ANY other useful vet from going to Miami once spots open up? Bron, Bosh, and Chalmers are young. It basically sets up to where any old guy who can fill a need in Miami can go there instead of helping another team compete.

Do you not see how that could affect the balance in the NBA in the long run? Not all 30 teams have contending teams every year. No more than 4 do... so what persuades guys like Allen from not heading to teams like Miami when another team could use his talents if offering more money/better contracts to solidify market value won't convince him?

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

Because other NBA franchises arent charity cases. Ray Allen doesnt owe them other teams shyt. Its his career and if he wants to try and go out a winner thats his choice. The other teams need to work their situation to where free agents will want to go there instead of Miami.

Agreed. But only so many players in the league. Only 10% of them ever really pan out to be good/great players. And when a team like the current Miami squad comes along... who's not gonna go there? The other 24 teams (outside LA, OKC, Boston, LAC and NY) are pretty much assed out when it comes to getting good vet talent.

 

[YBE]

Larry has a point but, there's really no point in talking to Bronsons

 

[YBE]

He's against piggybacking moreso than the paycuts it seems. For some, HOW you win matters just as much as anything. With that said, you can't hate on Lebron for any reason, he was the leader of that team we people said he was running from leadership in Cleveland, he carried that damn team for stretches, and did so with an incredible amount of pressure mounted upon him. And regardless of what he says, I'm sure Larry Bird wouldn't have had a single problem signing any of them nikkas at a discounted salary

This is ignorant because of Bird's current/former position with the Pacers.

You telling me if Ray Allen said "I'm going to the Pacers for the vet min" Bird would say no off of principle?

this logic is stupid. coaches have different interests than players. what GM not doing Speedballs would turn down multiple all stars on the vet. min; doesn't mean they'd be cool with ringchasing if they were still in the league.


Example: Remember the NBA lockout last summer? Remember how Michael Jordan wasn't siding with the Players Union & noted how salaries were getting too exorbitant, you think that black stingy muthafukka would've been saying that shyt as a player?

 

[Tuc2DaBoot]

Miami/Bron fans are delusional....

 

[mbewane]

It sounds like he's talking more about guys like Allen (and even Malone,etc) that will leave there team to go to a rival, leaving money on the table to try and win a championship on an already contending team

Shyt.....Steve Nash is no different

Agree, this the the post that makes most sense here IMO...Nash is slightly different though, the Lakers weren't really going anywhere, while the Heat just won the title. And I was hoping for more from Jesus (Thank You Based Ray).

I guess HOW you win a title doesn't really mean much now. shyt with how things are going I wouldn't even be surprised to see CP3 and/or Dwight find a way to join the Heat sometime soon and start acting like a Bosh. League is about to become even more non-competitive and boring I fear.

 

[Jplaya2023]

Does nash fall into this category?

 

[Rain]

Miami/Bron fans are delusional....

Delusional about what

 

[keon]

I'm Bothered By Guys Taking Pay Cuts To Try & Win A Championship

larry's a cool guy and all but..

 

[Absolut]

This is ignorant because of Bird's current/former position with the Pacers.

You telling me if Ray Allen said "I'm going to the Pacers for the vet min" Bird would say no off of principle?

bird would still be correct with his comment, because the pacers arent anywhere near winning a championship. allen would be seen as the "veteran leader" and that he was "willing to sacrifice and do whatever it takes to help his team" by "putting the team in front of his own monetary value" which would be a "great example for todays youth of sacrifice and teamwork"

 

[Brief Keef]

larry bird is right though

this paycut shyt destroys the competitive value. theres no reason to have a salary cap if guys aren't gonna sign for market value.

rookie deals are a problem as well. 4 years of slave labor encourages teams to dump contracts and load up on rookies

do they have to sign for market value fukk outta here nikka fukk these old ass salty nikkas don't matter if they white or black im glad that these nikkas are taking control of their own destiny fukk letting gm's ship you wherever they please to get whoever & whatever they want

 

[Higher Tech]

do they have to sign for market value fukk outta here nikka fukk these old ass salty nikkas don't matter if they white or black im glad that these nikkas are taking control of their own destiny fukk letting gm's ship you wherever they please to get whoever & whatever they want

The union is there so everybody gets market value. I bet the union doesn't like people signing for less.

I remember when Bruschi took less money to stay with the Pats, the union was pissed. I know its a little diff in foozball, but still, the union is fighting for the players to get the highest wage possible. Its a proverbial slap in the face when it happens.

 

[Kunty McPhuck]

Larry kids are gunna say something different when they findout the pay cut in his Will he gave them

 

[OG Talk]

What it pretty much boils down to is that the young black male athlete is gonna catch fierce criticism for any move he makes that he deems as personally advantageous to himself

10 years ago the comment was "all these basketball players care about is bling, money, and cars they're not like _______ who wanted to win"

Word


It went from "All they care about is money, nobody wants to win" to "All they care about is winning, why won't they take our money?"