Im convinced most of the Coli has no idea how business works.

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It's not though. A lot of shyt just takes time.

If everyone had your philosophy we would all be quitting day 1. And it looks extra stupid saying that if you haven't been in that lane.
Who said stuff doesn't take time though? I just said if it isn't selling to your standards you need to work on it. Don't know how you keep making what I said into something it isn't.

Also how does my philosophy mean you quit on day one fam? You honesty ain't making sense but dude likes you since you coddling him like a fukking baby. Nothing about improving yourself means quit on day 1 or day 10000000. It means exactly what it means improve yourself. Lastly whats with the passive aggressive sucker stuff? In that lane? So everything you ever spoken on you've personally experienced? Ok fam and either way it don't matter cause I've done this and been around others way more successful than me that have done it so I don't get the point of dropping that passive aggressive stuff.
 
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Once he started going in on me comparing me to Tariq, i started smiley facing him because i knew he was the kind of guy that would get infuriated when someone didn't try to beat his illogical advice with logic that he could care less about. No where in my OP did I state that i am giving up or black consumers won't buy. I said they are not buying at the rate they are demanding.

Meaning 500 comments in IG for a specific design and 20 to 30 actual purchasers.

I have always been a big believer of "buy black" to be a silly notion. Sell quality and they will buy. They are buying, but not enough for me to move to the next level. I might have to cater to other demographics to open my market. That is business.

I will not let me life's work die in the shadows because my main customer base doesn't want to put their money where their mouth is.


1 year ago I had shyt quality art. I launched a kickstarter hoping people would take my story seriously but they couldnt get past the art. I didn't blame them saying they were shallow. I blamed myself for having art that didn't make them want to learn more. I then remade everything from the ground up instead of try to say "support black businesses."


But as all men with kids and a wife to take care of, I don't have an infinite amount of time to get established. Thus, I must move with a sense of urgency.

Thanks for backing me up.
@FireStormPhoenix you co signing bold cause dude wants someone to coddle him like I'm his girl? This dude supposed to be in business but don't know people always kicking that "I gotcha man" and its not always the case. That's my problem with both of y'all. Y'all make it seem like I'm crazy for calling out this craziness. People do that all the time that ain't no reason for bytching. Maybe dude don't have the bread to be doing this if it has to be a hit or else where he bytching if all 500 don't buy his stuff. I'm not trying to be rude but on here when you don't kiss ass people wanna get all sensitive and act like children. Ole I compared him to tariq ass nikka. No I didn't. I gave an example for the umpteenth time of someone who is doing your lane and seems to be doing good as someone to strive to be sales wise.
 

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I cant stand these threads where cynical ass mfers go around trying to convince other people to sit on their ass and not do shyt.

If someone wants to start a business, they will learn (the easy or hard way) all of the ins and outs, rules and regulations, and unforseen difficulties and joys that come from it.

What they don't need is your negative ass telling them they cant do it.

FOH for real :camby:
 

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Long post ahead but here's the truth, many of us gotta stop making excuses breh. Yes, it's hard. Yes, there are road blocks. But at what point will we just try anyway? I hate seeing the numerous threads on here and other boards like this: http://www.thecoli.com/threads/its-literally-impossible-to-start-your-own-business-gtfo.308713/

There was a breh on here who made a thread about black men & pizza ideas. The amount of ppl who came in there trying to discourage him was pathetic. Even if you are pessimistic about it, or unsure, why try to convince others that it "can't" be done? As a group, we aren't in a collective position to be so "picky" about entrepreneurship. At this point it's more ownership or continue to be at the bottom rung.

Of course cacs make it hard for us to start businesses, but what ALSO doesn't help is that some of us aren't even willing to live below our means and sacrifice long enough to save up money. It takes a selfless and dedicated person to cut back on temporary gratification and materialistic desires for a goal. l know firsthand. A lot of us are not willing to curb our spending habits, and save our disposable income, the reason many of us don't have the money saved to put towards a business is because a) we blow our disposable income on toys and entertainment like children and b) those with the money rather keep it to themselves instead of finding like minded black men to build with. Even rich famous black men with millions tend to not invest back into the community, a lot blow it on hoes, cars, coke, jewelry, clothes, shoes, etc

I've known some brothers in diff fields, one was a mechanic, who complained about working for cacs, i once asked, well how much do u have saved so far, they said they had no extra money so i asked, after your bills are paid, what do you spend your disposable income on? Guess what answers i got after asking twice? Video games, clubbing/strip club, expensive clothes, $300 sneakers, liquor, etc. Entertainment and toys.

Seems like a lot of us want to portray that we have wealth that we don't actually have. Bragging about being the flyest and the most "swag" but really lack wealth and ownership. Want to be in the nicest whip, rock the most expensive brands, and even have kids who can't walk yet in expensive clothes and Jordans. But have an alarmingly low amount of black businesses and ownership.

So many of us spend money to floss and portray a false sense of wealth, and have nothing to show for it except these material possessions. Instead of laying low, making sacrifices, and stacking for a greater goal as a group, we want instant gratification, flashiness and individualism.
 
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Back when i was first trying to get some shyt popping, I had partnered with a dude who couldn't afford the overhead at a business we put together....I came out of my pocket for a lot of shyt. Not even shytting on him,, it is what it is. But if he was honest about it and had just been like Yo Carter i don't have it, because of some serious, unexpected issues then i would've be like ok cool. But then i saw him all on social media popping bottles, with new jewelry, rocking expensive clothes,etc shortly after he told me he "didn't have it" :beli:

A lot of us rather spend our disposable income on entertainment and flossing instead of investing. Don't see how anyone could even debate that. If i were to ask some of the same exact dudes who complain about not having the capital, what do you spend yor disposable income on, there's a good chance they'll say entertainment/toys, instead of saving up for a business.

I'm not saying it in a high and mighty way either. It's a long, difficult road. But you DEFINITELY can't execute a plan without taking action.

If your goal is to eventually open up a store, then start saving money to open it up. Cut back on spending so much on entertainment, eating at expensive restaurants, clothes and sneakers, clubbing, etc.

In general, we are huge consumers. Despite what some ppl will claim, a lot of us DO have disposable income. We just don't want to sacrifice (stay out of the club so much, stop splurging on liquor, video games, expensive clothes/shoes, stop tricking so much, etc) in order to try to reach a greater goal.

You don't get a business loan by going to the bank and saying, "here's my idea, please give me a loan"
 
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The amount of dudes I know who get money like that but aint trynna advance into something legal is stupid.

Yep. All on Facebook fanning the drug money like this

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:mjlol:i do know one dude who put the money he got from hustling for years into a restaurant. But you're right, most aren't trying to use that money to go legit and do some business legally
 

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I cant stand these threads where cynical ass mfers go around trying to convince other people to sit on their ass and not do shyt.

If someone wants to start a business, they will learn (the easy or hard way) all of the ins and outs, rules and regulations, and unforseen difficulties and joys that come from it.

What they don't need is your negative ass telling them they cant do it.

FOH for real :camby:
Quote one poster who said we shouldnt open our own businesses :stopitslime:

All ive seen is people saying its hard and takes work, and then other people saying naw its easy blah blah
 

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This is exactly what i expected. A bunch of insults but no real answers. Dont let these basement dwelling losers deter you. A bunch of virgins who live with their parents living out their fantasies online have no idea what theyre talenbout
dont know if this was in support of me or flaming me lol
 

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Quote one poster who said we shouldnt open our own businesses :stopitslime:

All ive seen is people saying its hard and takes work, and then other people saying naw its easy blah blah
The message he and I am saying is to at least try.
 
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