"I'm fine in the West..." - Ja Morant

Is Ja safe out West?


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Thavoiceofthevoiceless

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two things

You can’t just say, “outside of Horford.” That’s not how a discussion works. It wasn’t like he was a bit part playet.

Secondly, the Celtics were a veteran team with a lot of experience, despite their ages.
I literally said in my comment that he was a huge key part of their run and the reason why they picked up the full amount of the last year of that deal.

The word veteran is becoming a muddied term as people aren’t exactly explicit in what that term means. They were not a veteran team as the youth and inexperience caught up to them when it mattered most.

Let’s not have revisionist history like that wasn’t the case.
 

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Still a very deep team that will be mostly fine. Just super funny how average they are against West while being elite vs East, polar opposite of his comments. Biggest worry should be Bane’s injury still lingering.
JJJ foul problem is still an issue and makes it difficult for him to be in at the end of games.
 

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JJJ foul problem is still an issue and makes it difficult for him to be in at the end of games.
I know he fouled out yesterday :pachaha:but overall he’s been much better in that regard, now playoffs is another thing. Also is Adams gonna be able to stay on the floor or played off? He’s been a big part of their success this season. It also makes it tough for JJJ if Adams has to be benched.
 

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They were not a veteran team as the youth and inexperience caught up to them when it mattered most.
Against the most experienced and successful team in the NBA? :what:

This Celtics group played in three conference finals and been in like four-game sevens. They were an experienced and veteran team who ran into a team who was even more experienced and has a dynastic pedigree.
 

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Against the most experienced and successful team in the NBA? :what:

This Celtics group played in three conference finals and been in like four-game sevens. They were an experienced and veteran team who ran into a team who was even more experienced and has a dynastic pedigree.
I was referring to age in my argument when I was referring to veteran leadership and not experience. It’s why I asked you what was your definition of being a veteran and specifically used Horford as my example.
 
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I was referring to age in my argument when I was referring to veteran leadership and not experience. It’s why I asked you what was your definition of being a veteran and specifically used Horford as my example.
Fine, but then you moved on to say the Celtics were not a team with veterans despite all the evidence pointing otherwise. Then you said the Celtics lack of experience and reliance youth cost them against the Warriors, which is silly.

The Grizzlies' problem is that they haven't been in enough wars to harden them.

The Celtics have. Its not the same.
 

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It’s time to move the Memphis Grizzlies to the eastern conference via expansion. Do it Silver :ufdup:
 

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two things

You can’t just say, “outside of Horford.” That’s not how a discussion works. It wasn’t like he was a bit part playet.

Secondly, the Celtics were a veteran team with a lot of experience, despite their ages.
Two eastern conference finals before that
 

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Fine, but then you moved on to say the Celtics were not a team with veterans despite all the evidence pointing otherwise. Then you said the Celtics lack of experience and reliance youth cost them against the Warriors, which is silly.

The Grizzlies' problem is that they haven't been in enough wars to harden them.

The Celtics have. It’s not the same.
Again, when I said veteran I was specifically referring to age which is why I used Horford as the example.

It’s why I don’t necessarily consider someone like Adams as the veteran the Grizzles need.
 

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Last year with the Celtics outside of Horford, who was a key part of their run. I never said it didn’t value, what I said was that you need vets that will know their role and make a big fuss over it.
So the Celtics had some veteran presence then. And your statement was to say that veteran presence is overrated. But how can it be overrated if teams can’t succeed without it?
 

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Grizz have gotten to the point now were they need to win something to justify the antics.
That was last year TBH

And many of us pointed out: Playoffs a different beast

All them double doubles and highlights that Luka was putting up didn't mean shyt because the Mavs did not have the personnel to beat the Dubs

All that athleticism and dancing and shyt talking Ja and nem was on? That meant nothing because the Dubs are largely a championship caliber squad and have been for about 8 seasons now.

You going on TV talking about "You fine in the West" is gonna motivate teams that can absolutely put a foot in your ass to circle the date and wait

Klay said it best:

 

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So the Celtics had some veteran presence then. And your statement was to say that veteran presence is overrated. But how can it be overrated if teams can’t succeed without it?
I specifically said that it can be overrated when you have situations where the veterans on the team are just as hungry for minutes as the younger players they are supposed to be mentoring.

A lot of people aren’t too keen on playing the veteran and mentor role and I don’t necessarily lame them.

As a matter of fact the Grizzles did have a veteran leader and mentor at one point and time until he bytched his way off the roster because he didn’t want to be there.
 
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