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[714562]

shunning the original people for doing something but then doing it.

exhibit a: macklemore

Macklemore shuns black people? Like, Macklemore avoids black people? Seems like they're all over his videos. I wouldn't call that shunning.

Macklemore is really annoying for a lot of reasons, but shunning black people isn't one of them. In fact, he seems over-eager for their acceptance

 

[Blackout]

Let me clarify:

Gay people are not visibly gay when they do not want to be. So by the time of the "gay civil rights movement," there were already many gays in the media, academia, etc. That's what I meant by relative popularity -- relative acceptance and success.

I think that's really the main factor. Gay people avoiding visible homosexuality allows them to avoid the same discrimination and accumulate resources. But nowadays, gays are more visible than before.

This is the main reason why I get annoyed when gays try to compare their struggles with our own.

 

[714562]

How does the concept of white genetic annihilation make you feel?

It doesn't make me feel any type of way.

 

[Matt504]

Not to derail the topic of conversation, but what do you define as "stealing" culture?

Culture is not physical property. It cannot be physically stolen (unless you steal a painting, but that's not quite the same thing).

You cannot copyright culture.

You cannot patent culture.

So how would you define "stealing" culture?

a more suitable word would be "appropriate" as opposed to steal.

Cultural appropriation is the adoption of some specific elements of one culture by a different cultural group. It describes acculturation or assimilation, but can imply a negative view towards acculturation from a minority culture by a dominant culture.[1][2] It can include the introduction of forms of dress or personal adornment, music and art, religion,language, or social behavior. These elements, once removed from their indigenous cultural contexts, can take on meanings that are significantly divergent from, or merely less nuanced than, those they originally held.

Appropriation practice involves the 'appropriation' of ideas, symbols, artifacts, image, sound, objects, forms or styles from other cultures, from art history, from popular culture or other aspects of human made visual or non visual culture.[3]Anthropologists have studied the process of cultural appropriation, or cultural borrowing (which includes art and urbanism), as part of cultural change and contact between different cultures.[4]

Cultural appropriation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[714562]

a more suitable word would be "appropriate" as opposed to steal.




Cultural appropriation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So then, we are making a distinction between theft and appropriation. Okay. So what we are discussing is one culture adopting the traits and symbols of another culture. Is that accurate?

 

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Macklemore shuns black people? Like, Macklemore avoids black people? Seems like they're all over his videos. I wouldn't call that shunning.

Macklemore is really annoying for a lot of reasons, but shunning black people isn't one of them. In fact, he seems over-eager for their acceptance

You misunderstand, breh. Many people have a negative image of rap music. However, those same people will support an artist like macklemore. why? regardless of what people tell you, it's ultimately because he's white.

to your point, of course he has black people all over his videos. that's to make white people not feel so bad about 2 white guys winning that grammy. shyt...their album was called 'the heist'. then the dude had the nerve to text message kendrick (who clearly had the best rap album anyone had heard in years) on a white guilt trip...only to post those messages publicly in a deceptive "i'm not the bad guy! see?" type of way.

meanwhile, hardly anyone who actually follows rap gave two shyts about macklemore. he stole from the culture. he wasn't really 'in', got rich of the music, without so much as a nod from the community that actually cares about the music. that's stealing culture. it's sort inviting yourself to a party and blowing out the candles on someone else's birthday cake on accident, but instead of apologizing you just start opening their gifts, too.

 

[Busted_Toes]

Being racist should be classed as a mental disorder. Have them sit in a chair and reflect why they hate a people that has done nothing to them.

 

[Soundwave]

it's not our fault breh, y'all have all the good music, food etc.

if it weren't for black people, white people would all be wearing cardigans and eating salmon

thank you brehs and brehettes

it's my favourite cologne

what's white-on-white crime? credit card fraud?

 

[Soundwave]

You misunderstand, breh. Many people have a negative image of rap music. However, those same people will support an artist like macklemore. why? regardless of what people tell you, it's ultimately because he's white.

to your point, of course he has black people all over his videos. that's to make white people not feel so bad about 2 white guys winning that grammy. shyt...their album was called 'the heist'. then the dude had the nerve to text message kendrick (who clearly had the best rap album anyone had heard in years) on a white guilt trip...only to post those messages publicly in a deceptive "i'm not the bad guy! see?" type of way.

meanwhile, hardly anyone who actually follows rap gave two shyts about macklemore. he stole from the culture. he wasn't really 'in', got rich of the music, without so much as a nod from the community that actually cares about the music. that's stealing culture. it's sort inviting yourself to a party and blowing out the candles on someone else's birthday cake on accident, but instead of apologizing you just start opening their gifts, too.

This sounds like it would be tons of fun

 

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This sounds like it would be tons of fun

Ruining someone's birthday party is #inherently fun.

 

[714562]

You misunderstand, breh. Many people have a negative image of rap music. However, those same people will support an artist like macklemore. why? regardless of what people tell you, it's ultimately because he's white.

to your point, of course he has black people all over his videos. that's to make white people not feel so bad about 2 white guys winning that grammy. shyt...their album was called 'the heist'. then the dude had the nerve to text message kendrick (who clearly had the best rap album anyone had heard in years) on a white guilt trip...only to post those messages publicly in a deceptive "i'm not the bad guy! see?" type of way.

meanwhile, hardly anyone who actually follows rap gave two shyts about macklemore. he stole from the culture. he wasn't really 'in', got rich of the music, without so much as a nod from the community that actually cares about the music. that's stealing culture. it's sort inviting yourself to a party and blowing out the candles on someone else's birthday cake on accident, but instead of apologizing you just start opening their gifts, too.

So Macklemore got rich making rap music that caters to people who aren't fans of rap.

How is that theft? We've already established that you can't physically steal, copyright, or patent a culture.

So what is the theft aspect here?

Would someone from the original rap culture have made the same dollars Macklemore did, if Macklemore had never existed?

 

[Busted_Toes]

So Macklemore got rich making rap music that caters to people who aren't fans of rap.

How is that theft? We've already established that you can't physically steal, copyright, or patent a culture.

So what is the theft aspect here?

Would someone from the original rap culture have made the same dollars Macklemore did, if Macklemore had never existed?

Elvis Presley used to go to Black clubs in Memphis with a Pen & Pad and take notes of the Black Mens moves, mannerisms, style etc. The audacity of this CAC. Now he a Legend.

Culture Vultures.

 

[Soundwave]

Ruining someone's birthday party is #inherently fun.

I just wanna know why you chose Yuffie as your screen nam tho

Why not Vincent Valentine or Red XIII ... hell, even Reno

 

[Matt504]

Being racist should be classed as a mental disorder. Have them sit in a chair and reflect why they hate a people that has done nothing to them.

I agree. when White people brought Africans to America and treated them like animals it was ALL unprovoked, Africans did nothing to White people to deserve that kind of treatment, I'd love for someone to explain that behavior.

a man who has done nothing to you is beaten, brutalized, hanged, set on fire, his woman hanged, her baby cut out of her stomach.

what did Africans do to deserve any of it?

 

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So Macklemore got rich making rap music that caters to people who aren't fans of rap.

How is that theft? We've already established that you can't physically steal, copyright, or patent a culture.

So what is the theft aspect here?

Would someone from the original rap culture have made the same dollars Macklemore did, if Macklemore had never existed?

Someone did and his name was Eminem.

I too would use the word appropriation just because it makes more sense. I would actually say misappropriation. However, in this case I personally would call it cultural theft on especially by the his supporters because they are not real rap fans but they want to have that feeling of "rolling with their homies" or whatever.

*edit: I'd go into more detail but i'm so damn tired. But consider that fact that rap doesnt't get much play outside of cities. Even then it's limited to certain stations. Then take a safe white guy with a rap song and play it on every station. so i guess maybe it's not stealing. someone has to have something before it can be taken away.