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The notion that "x people are/have insert y characteristic", I would suggest, only makes sense if you consider "x people" as a monolithic entity that transcends time and space. I.e: Jews are Christ killers.

The complaint that white people "appropriate" certain forms of black culture is not entirely unreasonable. Yet has anyone ever considered the flip side of that coin?
How many aspects of white civilization have been adopted by the rest of the world?
X People were originally BLACK.
 

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This cracka is trying too hard.
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The notion that "x people are/have insert y characteristic", I would suggest, only makes sense if you consider "x people" as a monolithic entity that transcends time and space. I.e: Jews are Christ killers.

The complaint that white people "appropriate" certain forms of black culture is not entirely unreasonable. Yet has anyone ever considered the flip side of that coin?
How many aspects of white civilization have been adopted by the rest of the world?

tell us about some of these aspects of white civilization, and also tell us the fallout of the world adopting them, such as widespread pollution and the destruction of the worlds air and waters.

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Okay. So then we agree that what we're discussing is one culture adopting the traits and symbols of another culture. And we agree that's not the same as theft. It's "appropriation."

So is appropriation bad? And if so, why is it bad?

It seems like the main gripe here is that appropriation of certain cultural traits by ONE culture may potentially redefine those traits in the original culture.

Can we say that black people "appropriated" white musical theory to create Jazz? Is that equally bad?

I do not think appropriation is necessarily good or bad. It doesn't even have to be race oriented, tbh. NY rappers have appropriated a southern rap sound. It can be a negative thing when a people is totally stripped of their original culture, institutionalized, and well...

But it is not at all unfair to check or resent white people, specifically, for latching onto and capitalizing on black culture (for the sake of this example) after they very brutally stripped black americans of all sense of identity. So thoroughly that the effects are still very apparent today. Even as free men, blacks have had to deal with being treated as subhuman. All the while our music, dances, slang, art are loved now. What are we supposed to think other than "Y'all keep stealing my shyt!"? HipHop gets an 'Elvis' every once in a while and people love it. This same shyt happened to rock and roll but at least The Beatles admitted it while they were in it. I digress, tho. It's so bad at this point that one of the only constants in the general 'black culture' in the US is 'how do you deal with white people?'. Our culture is based on paranoia half the damn time, albeit paranoia turned towards cunning.

Once discovered by an outsider, any cultural practice or artifact can be spread. That's just the nature of the game, but we must always consider the context, you know? I'm an adult and I should practice safe sex. However, I should not have safe sex with an animal in a daycare full of children with progeria. That is why it's still largely unacceptable for white people to say 'nikka'.

I also believe that most people will disagree (if not laugh in your face) if you tried to give white people any credit for pioneering jazz music. :mjlol: although many were classically trained...that's a whole other thread.
 

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I've said it once i'll say it again, I think at least half of all white people have an evil gene in their DNA.:yeshrug:
 

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tell us about some of these aspects of white civilization, and also tell us the fallout of the world adopting them, such as widespread pollution and the destruction of the worlds air and waters.

:lupe:
I think he means 'democracy'. :mjlol:
 

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tell us about some of these aspects of white civilization, and also tell us the fallout of the world adopting them, such as widespread pollution and the destruction of the worlds air and waters.

:lupe:
And while I am doing that, should I bother to also mention the benefits of humans adopting them, such as increased life expectancy, health, and happiness?

Besides that, your post strikes me as highly hypocritical, not to mention outright irrational. You are essentially denying the human characteristic of free will. "A German fella invented the combustion engine, therefore the whole world had no choice but to use it. Therefore it is the German fella's fault the world is polluted." Is that your argument?

Of course, the hypocrisy of criticizing White civilization on one hand while gladly enjoying its benefits and comforts with the other so so self-evident, I won't even bother to make a note of it.
 

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And while I am doing that, should I bother to also mention the benefits of humans adopting them, such as increased life expectancy, health, and happiness?

Besides that, your post strikes me as highly hypocritical, not to mention outright irrational. You are essentially denying the human characteristic of free will. "A German fella invented the combustion engine, therefore the whole world had no choice but to use it. Therefore it is the German fella's fault the world is polluted." Is that you're argument?

Of course, the hypocrisy of criticizing White civilization on one hand while gladly enjoying its benefits and comforts with the other so so self-evident, I won't even bother to make a note of it.
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nikka....just answer the damn questions. lol.
 

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And while I am doing that, should I bother to also mention the benefits of humans adopting them, such as increased life expectancy, health, and happiness?

Besides that, your post strikes me as highly hypocritical, not to mention outright irrational. You are essentially denying the human characteristic of free will. "A German fella invented the combustion engine, therefore the whole world had no choice but to use it. Therefore it is the German fella's fault the world is polluted." Is that you're argument?

Of course, the hypocrisy of criticizing White civilization on one hand while gladly enjoying its benefits and comforts with the other so so self-evident, I won't even bother to make a note of it.

we can't critique the things we enjoy but rather feign ignorance?

:lupe:

interesting.
 

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we can't critique the things we enjoy but rather feign ignorance?

:lupe:

interesting.
Then what, if I may ask, is the problem with "culture stealing"?

Please explain to me the difference between the white supremacist who hates "those porch monkeys" but "loves Eminem and Tupac" and the non-white who enjoys his car and his electricity yet in the same breath accuses white people of destroying the planet.
 

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Someone just negged me for suggesting that Jazz is an example of blacks appropriating portions of white culture :heh:
 
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