I'm not concerned about a.i. being a bubble. I'm concerned about it actually being what they say it is.

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those are not ** driven ** by LLMs

LLMs are "by some accounts" the precursors to AGI

driving systems are not.

because driving systems are operating in structured environments.
correct, but the average person doesnt know the difference and its still cutting into the pockets of human drivers
 

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that's going to create a bubble.



we are discussing whether predictions are accurate not whether it is in a bubble.

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we saw bubbles with dot.com, structured debt, crypto .. now AI

it looks like that is just the way we do business
Yes bubbles are the American way:mjlol:








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anthropic - claude
open AI - chatGPT
google - genimi
deepseek - deepseek
apple - apple intelligence
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My point is that companies like OpenAI, which have no real value outside of AI, will take the most damage from a bubble burst. Google, MS, Apple...they aren't in that boat. A market collapse is going to hurt everyone but ultimately they'll be fine. Pushing the service into the private sector is the ultimate goal. You use it to cut costs, increase revenue, blow your stock up etc.
 

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correct, but the average person doesnt know the difference and its still cutting into the pockets of human drivers

true but that is not as big an issue as what is in the OP.

self-driving cars means drivers need ti retrain.

full AGI means "everyone" needs to retrain.

did you see travelers where a future AGI "the director" was running society?
 

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The tech sector will do everything they can to keep things afloat but the amount of investment necessary they don't even have. They will have to get loans from banks and banks aren't going to go for it. They need investments with real Net Present Value. They don't share the romantic feelings the tech world has for the technology. They need real world results. Not just some cool idea that loses a lot of money.
Literally on a meeting right now where we are talking about our AI plans going forward. I asked have we actually even talked to customers to see if they are even willing to pay for these AI enhancements we are looking to add. Nope not at all. So we're about to invest all this money for new features that we don't even know if there is a market for. All just to say we added AI.
 
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They tried to "AI" the Federal Government.

From the outset, it obviously wouldn't work. And it obviously didn't work.

They fired most of the people they could ANYWAY, only to hire back some folks because the systems were too complicated to automate.

AI doesn't need to actually work for there to be MASS job layoffs.

That's the big con.
  • Sending jobs to the South, To Canada and Mexico, to China... didn't bring the promised results.
  • The consulting doesn't need to actually bring results
  • The merger doesn't have to actually be profitable
  • Software didn't need to work to fire people.
  • LLM's didn't need to actually write good copy in order to justify firing copywriters
  • Offshoring doesn't need to actually be cheaper in the long run, in order to justify it
All of the stuff meant to increase productivity is 99 times out of 100 to decrease headcount.

It's never really been about performance or efficiency.

The results don't actually matter.

Reality doesn't matter.

Not only do they just make up reality, they live in a different reality.

"Trickledown economics" ...

There is no long term, there is no future, there is only right now.

Right now? For who? For them.

But not for you, not for us, and most importantly, not for me.

The rub is that a lot of them, think they're gonna be fine. Bunkers in New Zealand, and 5 or 6 in other undisclosed location...

They will not be fine. I just won't be alive to see their comeuppance.
 

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I pissed my boss of I think because we were having a meeting about how to utilize AI going forward. I pointed out how resource intensive utilizing AI is and how our network and hardware teams are already struggling with our existing products. I also mentioned how we are already struggling revenue and profit wise, so have we factored in the added cost of beefing up the infrastructure. He started stuttering and saying none of that had been considered but he'll bring it up to the AI committee we have. It was kind of embarrassing to me since I'm far from an expert.

Literally on a meeting right now where we are talking about our AI plans going forward. I brought asked have we actually even talked to customers to see if they are even willing to pay for these AI enhancements we are looking to add. Nope not at all. So we're about to invest all this money for new features that we don't even know if there is a market for. All just to say we added AI.

At a recent all staff at my org upper management is pushing using AI hard. Someone chimed in about the environmental concerns of the data centers. They didn't like that shyt, although they paid lip service to her concerns.
I work in the non profit sector so it's weird how hard management is pushing it. Must have been incentives presented by corporate donors.
 

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At a recent all staff at my org upper management is pushing using AI hard. Someone chimed in about the environmental concerns of the data centers. They didn't like that shyt, although they paid lip service to her concerns.
I work in the non profit sector so it's weird how hard management is pushing it. Must have been incentives presented by corporate donors.
In my dealings in the corporate world so many of these MFs are incompetent and just follow whatever the latest industry trends and buzzwords are. At the two companies I've been at we've changed directions every few months because some new fad has hit the industry and they feel we need to change what we are doing to match it. I've had so many arguments with officers asking "how does this fit us".
 

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This shyt is already at things will never be the same again levels. shyt like coding and graphic design is done for already. Granted you still need a level of competence but its nowhere even CLOSE to what was required before AI. Anything design related can be thrown into AI beforehand lessening the expertise required. Administrative tasking (reports, graphs, number crunching, diagrams, etc.) is also pretty much done for.

You still need a human element but the level of that requirement is becoming less and less with every iteration.

As a :flabbynsick: IT breh, I fear for the world lol.
 
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