I'm not concerned about a.i. being a bubble. I'm concerned about it actually being what they say it is.

[Scustin Bieburr]

i doubt anyone of substance actually said that.







that's true BUT customers have to resist ... and ensure they don't move as a herd

you sound like you don't use AI (LLMs)

go try one and you will feel much better.

Scientists understand this. You're posting videos of experts who actually know what theyre talking about.

The problem is that they are not the ones being listened to. Its people like satya nadella, Sundar Pichai, Sam Altman, Elon musk. People who have a financial interest in mass adoption of LLMs and Gen A.I. and they have the ears of business owners, investors, and heads of government. Investors who actually have a scientific background know that its bullshyt but might STILL invest because they cannot ignore the reality that the 10000 dollars they spent on nvidia shares back in 2015 has exploded in value.

The problem as others have pointed out in the thread is that the people in charge are not rational actors. They are driven by fear of missing out and the promise of more money. My worry is that the end result could be one of two:

A. The business owners and governments refuse to change course and keep believing that LLMs and GenAI are the future and cause a financial crisis.

B. They realize that they are being scammed, and reverse course. But then the share prices of everything linked to a.i. tanks and takes trillions of dollars with it.

 

[folasade]

Scientists understand this. You're posting videos of experts who actually know what theyre talking about.

The problem is that they are not the ones being listened to. Its people like satya nadella, Sundar Pichai, Sam Altman, Elon musk. People who have a financial interest in mass adoption of LLMs and Gen A.I. and they have the ears of business owners, investors, and heads of government. Investors who actually have a scientific background know that its bullshyt but might STILL invest because they cannot ignore the reality that the 10000 dollars they spent on nvidia shares back in 2015 has exploded in value.

The problem as others have pointed out in the thread is that the people in charge are not rational actors. They are driven by fear of missing out and the promise of more money. My worry is that the end result could be one of two:

A. The business owners and governments refuse to change course and keep believing that LLMs and GenAI are the future and cause a financial crisis.

B. They realize that they are being scammed, and reverse course. But then the share prices of everything linked to a.i. tanks and takes trillions of dollars with it.

It will be the latter, and the outcome will be bad financially.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

They'll hit the power ceiling before any of that happens, but you are right to be concerned.

Trump will have to deregulate nuclear power, and his oil buddies won't like that

And the cut in regulations and emphasis on speed means that they will focus on building as cheaply as possible. A nuclear reactor, like an airplane or a apartment complex is one of the things you ABSOLUTELY DO NOT want to cut corners on.

At best our risk of nuclear disasters increases. At worst, fossil fuel use explodes and drives up the cost of power, makes air quality worse, and drives up the cost of all goods in general since the cost of production has increased.

This is to say nothing about climate change and how it will make the nuclear disasters worse, or makes existing natural disasters worse(because of the surge of carbon going into the air)

And because unemployment will increase, there is less tax revenue to fund disaster relief operations. I dont want to imagine something like hurricane katrina happening and affecting a nuclear reactor, leading to radioactive material mixing in with the flood water.

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

AI is population control when you think about it.

Why do they kill universal healthcare? Because the powers that be want employment-tied health insurance.

How can you get employment-tied health insurance? You get a job. How can you get a job when AI is replacing you?

Technocrats want the poor dead. Just those rich enough to pay a monthly fee to feed their AI services.

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Brehs wanted to see Flyin Cars,Rosie The Robot and Total Recall to finally happen tho

 

[Patrick Kane]

A lot of AI is cap and OP you already detailed why : the data centers and the ability to generate actual AI on a large societal scale. We are nooooooowhere near that and I say that as someone working in the tech financial sector. Sure you’ll see more generative AI and shyt like chatbots for customer service but AI running the actual functions of society? It’s not happening anytime soon. All that you’re learning and seeing about AI IS the bubble.

They need your money and the money of billionaires and millionaires investing into these companies (+ the billions you’ll pay in taxes through government funding of AI since they’ve duped this goofy ass administration) to create those products. But what exactly are those products? fukking robots that nobody wants? That only millionaires and billionaires will use as servants and slaves? Will things go exactly as planned? Only time will tell. Technologies will continue to advance and we’ll always have new ones but actual AI won’t really do shyt until we have quantum AI and that’s 15-20 years away.

 

[O.T.I.S.]

White folks in love with the idea of slavery, but basically just wants AI to do all the work, with less costs, replacing workers but still want your money somehow.

 

[Mugenight]

I know it's not the same thing at all but in a lot of ways the push for AI reminds me of when people were pushing for VR extremely hard.

It was everywhere.

 

[Scustin Bieburr]

I know it's not the same thing at all but in a lot of ways the push for AI reminds me of when people were pushing for VR extremely hard.

It was everywhere.

They loved VR because you cannot mute or look away from the ads. They like augmented reality because they can turn parts of even your home into billboards and have pop up ads that actually pop up in front of something you're looking at.

The rule of thumb is if it connects to the internet and you use it multiple times a day, they WILL try to find a way to put ads on it. I'm glad that shyt flopped.

 

[Admiral Ackbar]

Brehs wanted to see Flyin Cars,Rosie The Robot and Total Recall to finally happen tho

My friends gonna be falling out of the sky with flying cars talmbout "I know the lights on, I can get 20 more miles. I know my car!'

 

[bnew]

I agree but these guys are not rational actors. They are moving like coke addicts or gamblers who think they are "due" for a win.

If they jump the gun and start pushing all this stuff out there and they kill the one thing that seems to be keeping even more people from being unemployed (the gig economy) then the damage that will be caused in the stock market from people selling their shares will force these guys to try and seek investment from sovereign wealth funds(like Saudi arabia) but then the demand for oil will drop as sales for products made with petroleum drops, and people drive less because they have no jobs to drive to. These CEOs will have to engage in stock buybacks to make up for the drop in share price coming from random people selling their shares they bought on the apps or cashing out their funds that are linked to the market.

I think a.i. and robotics being too early, a bubble, and something that investors lose confidence in is actually a better case scenario than them actually managing to build the infrastructure that generates the level of electricity they need for this shyt to actually work the way they want it to.

Not only that, theres the fact that they currently have zero solution for the problem of a.i. 'hallucinations' . If youve replaced a person who actually knows how to think with a bot that can get things wrong but CONFIDENTLY spit out a fake answer, you run the risk of losing more money than if you actually had a person that knows what theyre doing. Some people I know use a.i. at work and they find that they have to double or triple check it's answers to make sure it isnt wrong. If enough businesses get fed up with that shyt they'll change course.

if the time taken to double or triple check the A.I output is significantly less than doing the task without ai assistance to produce similar results than they'll stay the course.