I'm REALLY getting annoyed with the left confusing IMMIGRANTS with ILLEGAL ALIENS

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Drug problem evoked "war on drugs,"
Very weak "war on drugs" efforts with poor economy by Mexican government and delayed attention to drug issue by US government cause Drug problem
I'm not debating the consequences of the US "war on drugs," but instead pointing out that Mexico had problems prior to the US efforts

Lets not ignore that these people are coming regardless.

The "war on drugs" didn't start illegal immigration.

 

[Tate]

You say this shyt because you're losing the argument.

Mainly because it's true actually

 

[MostReal]

How the entire fukk is this racist?

the wording is used purposely. They know what they are doing

 

[Starman]

The left isn't "confusing" anything. Its intentional obfuscation.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Mainly because it's true actually

Lets stick to discussing why people keep classifying all immigrants together.

They're not, and legal immigrants deserve way more respect than what some the leading voices on the left, give them.

It annoys me to no end to hear some wonky actor or musician talking about "trump being against immigrants"

He's not.

Its ok to dislike Trump. I definitely do. But don't lie and make it easier for him.

 

[ill]

Nap I can't wait until you join the Republican Party

 

[StatUS]

People are turned off by the fascist language he employs. It's one thing to call for immigration control, it's another thing to call them rapists, drug mules and murders In a cynical attempt to whip up nativism for political gain. Especially when stats show natives commit crimes at higher rates.

Illegal immigration is also being curved by Obama and people are actually going back more than coming in. The issue that conservatives don't get is the country isn't going to round up 10+ million people and send them back over the boarder then build an expensive wall to keep them out.

 

[dtownreppin214]

the 11 million number is absurd. it's closer to 30 million.

 

[StatUS]

the 11 million number is absurd. it's closer to 30 million.

Straight from the Coulter/Trump Research Institute

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

Lets not ignore that these people are coming regardless.

The "war on drugs" didn't start illegal immigration.

people are gonna move regardless. Especially if you continue to cape for capitalism and the profit/deficit game that leads to these issues. But the truth is our intervention/interference across the continent has left the vast majority in a huge deficit.

You can't keep caping for the current system and then placing band aids on the results or blame on the victims. This thought process has historically lead to genocide when the problems have spiralled out of control

Drug problem evoked "war on drugs,"
Very weak "war on drugs" efforts with poor economy by Mexican government and delayed attention to drug issue by US government cause Drug problem
I'm not debating the consequences of the US "war on drugs," but instead pointing out that Mexico had problems prior to the US efforts

of course Mexico had problems before. Problems we've exploited for our own benefit. Like how NAFTA caused an already economically weaker Mexico's farmers to compete with cheaper products from the US and Canada. We can keep strolling back through the timeline if you really wanna play this game.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

people are gonna move regardless. Especially if you continue to cape for capitalism and the profit/deficit game that leads to these issues. But the truth is our intervention/interference across the continent has left the vast majority in a huge deficit.

You can't keep caping for the current system and then placing band aids on the results or blame on the victims. This thought process has historically lead to genocide when the problems have spiralled out of control
of course Mexico had problems before. Problems we've exploited for our own benefit. Like how NAFTA caused an already economically weaker Mexico's farmers to compete with cheaper products from the US and Canada. We can keep strolling back through the timeline if you really wanna play this game.

Bruh, no amount of anti-capitalist rantings will fix this.

It MUST be harder for illegals to get to the USA and to thrive in the USA.

They shouldn't be here.

Regardless.

So no amount of economic parity will fix this.

Hell, Mexico gets way more out of these trade deals than the USA does and they've thrived economically these last 20 years.

There is an imbalance here.

 

[L0Qutus]

Democrats are doing this for votes and their corporate masters want cheap labor. They think they can lock up the latino vote just like the black vote.

Obama new good god damn well that DACA (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) was unconstitutional..he said so himself in March 2011


But in 2012 during his fight for re-election he signed the executive order for DACA. Then in 2014 he said "fukk it" and re-upped that with DAPA (Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents).

This is all about votes and cheap labor. If latinos were voting 60-40 for Republicans instead of Democrats you best believe Dems would be talking about protecting American jobs and union jobs. What's surprised me is that unions are giving in and hoping to sign these guys up to boost their declining numbers...that shyt ain't gone work

 

[AyahuascaSippin]

Bruh, no amount of anti-capitalist rantings will fix this.

It MUST be harder for illegals to get to the USA and to thrive in the USA.

They shouldn't be here.

Regardless.

So
Hell, Mexico gets way more out of these trade deals than the USA does and they've thrived economically these last 20 years.

There is an imbalance here.

first off, you posted 0 facts as usual..

Secondly, just as my boy stationed in Afghanistan told me.. Those tons of opium we bag up would imbalance the scales RAPIDLY in the other direction IF we were transparent about our intentions..

Thirdly if you think the US is in the business of helping other countries (let alone our own citizens) well then we might as well put this discussion to bed breh.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

first off, you posted 0 facts as usual..

Secondly, just as my boy stationed in Afghanistan told me.. Those tons of opium we bag up would imbalance the scales RAPIDLY in the other direction IF we were transparent about our intentions..

Thirdly if you think the US is in the business of helping other countries (let alone our own citizens) well then we might as well put this discussion to bed breh.

Whats this got to do with people coming to this country illegally for the last 50 years?

 

[88m3]

Nap I can't wait until you join the Republican Party