In hindsight KD making deep Western Conference runs with Yung Sabo is incredible

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KD and Westbrook suffered more from not having an elite coach who could make adjustments and a front office who could put some shooters around them. In retrospect we talk about them Harden and Ibaka but unless Harden was the main ballhandler (and we know Russy would have a problem with that) they probably wouldn't have reached their full potential. Though a linuep of those 4 and Jeff Green if they had kept him would have been lethal as hell especially in this era. But a good coach gets a point guard to pair up with Russell and plays him off the ball more. The key should have always been getting KD at least 22-25 shots a night cause he didn't have the mentality to demand it like he should have.
 

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Let LeBron win 5 out of 9 then I we wont use it. It is valid when comparing a counterpart during the same time period. If you can sit here and say the east competiton has no factor in LeBrons post season success, then idk what to tell you :manny:. All I know is that KD was going at legit dynasties and unquestioned, top 20 alltimer to get out of the West. While Bron with Wade and Bosh was fighting tooth and nail to beat the mighty Indiana Pacers with young pandemic P, Mr. 0-0 Boy Hibbert, and Lance Stephenson . Doesnt seem too equal to me :hubie:

This kind of falls apart because if okc lost to those "dynasties" then LeBron played them in the finals
 
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Ehh.... there's a reason they never made the Finals again after trading away Harden. He was a big part of what they did and the Spurs had no answer to him.
Yup!!

Kobe also said it’s a reason the Thunder bashed the Lakers in the first round “ we had no answer for Harden”

someone that talented coming off the bench is almost a cheat code.

OKC made the worst trade ever imo.
 

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That wasn't prime Bron...

And that resume won't net him a top five of all-time finish.

  1. Jordan
  2. Bron
  3. Kareem
  4. Magic
  5. Bird

Hell, Kobe has a better resume than that.

Kobe should be higher then everybody you named except mj and maybea kareem
 

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That OKC team was the favorite in 2012. These nikkas love rewriting history.

Pre-Warriors KD, the distance between Bron and him was the distance between Duncan and KG.

Its like if KG joined the Lakers (ironically almost happened) and won 3 chips and people saying he was as good as Duncan all along. :ehh:

Both GREAT...however, it was always clear who was better..

Durant was better just the media was dikkriding lebron
 

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You said Steph was clearly better in general, which wasn’t true at all. and Steph being better in a few playoff series means nothing. Kobe has series better than Shaq during the Lakers 3peat. Was he better than Shaq overall during that time period?? I think most people have enough sense to realize Shaq was still the better player regardless of what Kobe did in 2000-2003

KD also outperformed Steph in almost every metric in both finals and we seen what KD was doing in 2019 playoffs too.

2019 vs Clippers
35/5/5/1.5/1.2

steph-24/6/5/1.2/0.3

2019 vs Houston. 33/5/4/0.8/0.8

Steph-23/4/5/1/0.2

2018 nba playoffs- pelicans

KD-27/7/4.8/1.4/1.2
Steph- 24/5/3/2/0.5

rockets-

KD-30/5/2/0.3/0.9
Steph- 25/6/5/1.7/0.9






and Steph performed well in the 2018 finals except game 3. KD was just better not just in stats but lytics. Anyone suggesting otherwise, I have to ask what the hell were you watching???
There terrible cavs defense also pretty much beat the warriors the previous year:pachaha: I fukks with Steph and believe his gravity opened up things for KD, of course.

however there’s only about one year you could a make a argument he was ever better than KD

from the start of their careers. KD has had more achievements/better stats all around, and was generally the better player. Again I fukks with Steph but his most success came as a sidekick for a reason


Steph was not no sidekick your trippen
 

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So an injured and past his prime Westbrook is indicative of his years playing with KD? Bottom line is the KD/Westbrook Thunder were the most talented team in the West until the Warriors hit their stride. Don’t revise history to make it seem like Westbrook was this anchor that KD had to overcome, especially since KD is probably more responsible for the Thunder choking away a 3-1 lead to the Warriors.

Westbrook's is still in his prime hes just injured
 
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