In your opinion, why is Jay Z so popular and successful?

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Are u delusional :what:

Did u listen to LIG?? Hell even early Nas spit about money cars n hoes..he just tells more stories.....

Like i said..Nas isnt worth 200mil..without tryna hit mainstream...

:dead: @ this "rebel against the industry" image u have of Nas

Ive never seen such a delusional mufcka in my life :deadrose:

Contraversy sells...Nas basically did what Hov did with DOA for a whole album...
His album got attention through controversy which is what he most likely was lookin for...until the controversy got too real and he had to backtrack n sht :rudy:

Like I said...nothing ur sayin makes sense..Nas backtracked to maintain relationships with the southern artists who were hot at the time(Jeezy and T.i ) and he successfully did that and had collabs with them

nikka stop being a childish retard when it comes to these folk...all of them are bout their money and being succesful

nikka aint no "rebel to the industry"

They using the industry to progress as images of black success and I salute both of em..but fans like u needa get they kufis smacked and realize reality :snoop:
All of that and nas still didn't even attempt to please the industry as much as jay. :ahh:

Nas still makes songs about things that's far from bragging about cars, money and hoes while jay doesn't even put much effort to those topics. :ahh:

Nas even all now still has his "boring" beats and storyteller style without switching to cars money hos like jay is so accustomed too.

Lol. So Summer on Smash and Hero aren't sorry attempts for singles?

Again...just cuz his shyt flops doesn't mean he didn't try his little heart out:pachaha:
A few songs made by nas compared to full on albums made by jay? :ahh:
 

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All of that and nas still didn't even attempt to please the industry as much as jay. :ahh:

Nas still makes songs about things that's far from bragging about cars, money and hoes while jay doesn't even put much effort to those topics. :ahh:

Nas even all now still has his "boring" beats and storyteller style without switching to cars money hos like jay is so accustomed too.


A few songs made by nas compared to full on albums made by jay? :ahh:

whats wrong with making music for the radio?
 

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Lol. So Summer on Smash and Hero aren't sorry attempts for singles?

Again...just cuz his shyt flops doesn't mean he didn't try his little heart out:pachaha:
I made a thread about SOS.

How could Jay go into the studio with Swizz and come out with "Im on one" and Nas come out with SOS.

They both went into the studio with Swizz to make a hit record.

Nas fans ignore that though
 

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All of that and nas still didn't even attempt to please the industry as much as jay. :ahh:

Nas still makes songs about things that's far from bragging about cars, money and hoes while jay doesn't even put much effort to those topics. :ahh:

Nas even all now still has his "boring" beats and storyteller style without switching to cars money hos like jay is so accustomed too.


A few songs made by nas compared to full on albums made by jay? :ahh:
You sound as dumb as the dudes that wiz khalifa had a "legendary run" and that nas had a run but hov didnt :snoop:

the mainstream doesn't reasonate with nas and never will.. stop making excuses cuz they do with hov.
 

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whats wrong with making music for the radio?
A few is cool but this guy just overdid that shyt.
You sound as dumb as the dudes that wiz khalifa had a "legendary run" and that nas had a run but hov didnt :snoop:

the mainstream doesn't reasonate with nas and never will.. stop making excuses cuz they do with hov.
If nas had better beats and was about money, cars and hos like jay he'd be all over the mainstream.

But nas decided to do his own thing despite sacrificing radio success.

Don't get mad just because yo fav rapper been a radio rapper for most of his career.
 

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A few is cool but this guy just overdid that shyt.

If nas had better beats and was about money, cars and hos like jay he'd be all over the mainstream.

But nas decided to do his own thing despite sacrificing radio success.

Don't get mad just because yo fav rapper been a radio rapper for most of his career.


that is all :lolbron:
 

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A few is cool but this guy just overdid that shyt.

If nas had better beats and was about money, cars and hos like jay he'd be all over the mainstream.

But nas decided to do his own thing despite sacrificing radio success.

Don't get mad just because yo fav rapper been a radio rapper for most of his career.
No i think YOU are just mad that your favorite rapper has tried for a mainstream crossover hit for nearly 2 decades and failed.. working with lauryn hill, ginuwine, chris brown, Miguel , the game, and even Keri hilson at the height of their popularity and still failing. :umad:
 

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that is all :lolbron:

He signed to his label after they made up. He gotta say that shyt only cuz he is on his label. :shaq:
No i think YOU are just mad that your favorite rapper has tried for a mainstream crossover hit for nearly 2 decades and failed.. working with lauryn hill, ginuwine, chris brown, Miguel , the game, and even Keri hilson at the height of their popularity and still failing. :umad:
2 decades of trying for mainstream?

Are you confusing nas with somebody else? Cuz looking at his albums and him not changing his monotone flow and boring beats doesn't look like him trying to make mainstream crossover hits. :ohhh:

Nastradamus passed ages ago. You ain't got shyt now. :ahh:
 
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to keep it short


being good to good people

being respectful to respectful people

consistency with his music

surrounding himself with positive people and banishing negativity
 

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Jay has always got to leech off the biggie and pac era.
He was not a factor in hip hop when they was alive.
But somehow people want to add him and act like he had status back then.
Hell jayz did not even really have status 98 & 99.
And even then he was not really number one people was on ruff ryders and cash money.
people have rewritten jayz past.

You know the funny thing about posts like this is, all these things you say about Jay, I can give you a caricature of your post, except i'll do it with Nas, here it goes....

-Nas was a nobody in 1994, with all those super producers on illmatic, the album sold 59,000 copies in the first week, less than what Big Sean's last album did (in a much more declining sales era) which was considered one hell of a flop for sean, it took this nikka Nas damn near 2 years to go gold(Jan 1996).

-Seeing the success of Big in 94/95, he followed that format along with jumping on the mafioso Bandwagon after Raekwon got successful with it in 1995, that helped him finally become a star with IWW in 1996.

-Tried to ride the wave of the fugees in 95/96 by recruiting Lauryn hill at the height of her powers for his single.

-He tried to copy Big's Junior mafia clique in 97, with at the time hiphop's most succesful producer Dr Dre.

-He was all up in videos with puffy in the late 90's at the height of the shiny suit era, laughing away with a nikka that is now seen as a taboo for "real hiphop" and a leech. That nikka puff was spitting champagne like its water in a video with Nas? the anti-establishment Nas? :ohhh:

-Making forceful attempts at commercial music in 98/99 with the new hot producer at the time (Timbaland), making "you owe me" with one of the biggest R&B artist at the time (Ginuwine) and having the hottest RnB girl group at the time in his video(Destinys child).

-"dikkriding" Irv gotti and Ja when they were hot in 2002, to the point that he almost signed under Murder inc.

-dikkrode Lil john during the crunk era in 2003, with that embarassing single quick to back down.

-Went back to being "concious", "Hiphop purist" Nas when he saw that conscious rappers were getting more attention in the main stream with the success of Kanye west in 2004.

-Riding the young money wave post 2009 by making songs with Tyga, lil wayne and Nicki minaj. Speaking of the latter, participating as a video hoe with Nicki Minaj in one of the most watered down Hip-pop singles of the past 10 years. What a dikkrider this Nas nikka is eh? disgusting!

That's nas 19 year career in a nutshell, what a dikkriding fakkit!


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See how easy that was? :ld:
 
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You know the funny thing about posts like this is, all these things you say about Jay, I can give you a caricature of your post, except i'll do it with Nas, here it goes....

-Nas was a nobody in 1994, his album sold 59,000 copies in the first week, less than what Big Sean's last album did (in a much more declining sales era) which was considered one hell of a flop for sean, it took this nikka Nas damn near 2 years to go gold(Jan 1996).

-Seeing the success of Big in 94/95, he followed that format along with jumping on the mafioso Bandwagon after Raekwon got successful with it in 1995, that helped him finally become a star with IWW in 1996.

-Tried to ride the wave of the fugees in 95/96 by recruiting Lauryn hill at the height of her powers for his single.

-He tried to copy Big's Junior mafia clique, with at the time hiphop's most succesful producer Dr Dre.

-He was all up in videos with puffy in the late 90's at the height of the shiny suit era, laughing away with a nikka that is now seen as a taboo for "real hiphop" and a leech. That nikka puff was spitting champagne like its water in a video with Nas? the anti-establishment Nas? :ohhh:

-Making forceful attempts at commercial music with the new hot producer at the time (Timbaland), making "you owe me" with one of the biggest R&B artists and having the hottest RnB girl group at the time in his video(Destinys child).

-"dikkriding" Irv gotti and Ja when they were hot in 2002, to the point that he almost signed under Murder inc.

-dikkrode Lil john during the crunk era, with that embarassing single quick to back down.

-Went back to being "concious", "Hiphop purist" Nas when he saw that conscious rappers where getting more attention in the main stream with the success of Kanye west in 2004.

-Riding the young money wave post 2009 by making songs with Tyga, lil wayne, Nicki minaj, what a dikkrider this Nas nikka is, disgusting!

That's nas 19 year career in a nutshell, what a dikkriding fakkit!


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See how easy that was? :ld:

:wow:
 

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A few is cool but this guy just overdid that shyt.

If nas had better beats and was about money, cars and hos like jay he'd be all over the mainstream.

But nas decided to do his own thing despite sacrificing radio success.

Don't get mad just because yo fav rapper been a radio rapper for most of his career.
once again i ask, What is wrong with having your songs played on the radio.

And Nas is all about money,cars and hoes.
 

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once again i ask, What is wrong with having your songs played on the radio.

And Nas is all about money,cars and hoes.
And once again I tell you nothing is wrong. But when you focus your career on just being on the radio all you end up doing is tailoring to popularity.

Nas got too much songs about other topics than those topics to be all about money hos and cars.
 

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And once again I tell you nothing is wrong. But when you focus your career on just being on the radio all you end up doing is tailoring to popularity.

Nas got too much songs about other topics than those topics to be all about money hos and cars.
Nas has done the same thing. He is just not as good as Jay at doing so.
 

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All of that and nas still didn't even attempt to please the industry as much as jay. :ahh:

Nas still makes songs about things that's far from bragging about cars, money and hoes while jay doesn't even put much effort to those topics. :ahh:

Nas even all now still has his "boring" beats and storyteller style without switching to cars money hos like jay is so accustomed too.


A few songs made by nas compared to full on albums made by jay? :ahh:
What? A few album flops? Yeah. I guess.
 
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