Intellectual Rap

[cinna_man]

Add Last Emperor, Lowkey, Nas, Common, 2 Pac, Big Pun, Rakim, Biggie (creative which is part of writing), AZ, Slick Rick, Guru, Kool G Rap, Bizzy Bone, Tragedy Khadafi, Chris Rivers, Lauryn Hill, Shyne, Fashawn.

Not really feeling that list, man.

 

[H.I.M.]

This cat is trolling or not familiar with GZA's music.

I'm not even going to pretend like i've heard GZA's discography from front to back... but i have heard Liquid Swords, which is supposed to be his greatest work to date... not a bad album and he has some decent skills as an MC. But there nothing "intellectuall" about that album or any of his other work that i've stumbled across. Again, am i missing something? If so, point me in the direction of something "intellectual" by the man and i'll shut up.

Based on what i've heard, i doubt he'd be able to write a song like this for instance.

[Verse 1]
Knowledge you find inside my mind is designed to kill fear
Did you know the bible was written in by William Shakespeare?
It was done in the King James version in his 46th year
The 46th psalm is coded from the top down to the rear
Wanted his name over his work to be seen and read clear
But at the time that was something King James wasn't tryna hear
Study the history of King James and you'll find out he was a queer
Might explain how Shakespeare didn't pay attention and listen clear
Go to the 46th psalm, what I'm saying is not fake
Start at the word God, count 46 words down - you will see shake
Then go to the bottom, you'll see the word refuge appear
Start right there, count 46 words up, you will see spear
Shakespeare - no coincidence, they don't teach this in classes
They tampered with the holy scriptures and then fed it to the masses
Confused by misenterpreted signs and allegories
Parables are painted out like fairy tales and wild stories
That brainwashed the world leaving theological masters
What was once the word of God is now a theatrical disaster
Words they gave us only serve to enslave us
Hurt us in murderous ways and got us out here hoping ghost worshipping save us
They don't want you black man, you think you know yourself don't you?
You got the last name, but that was the name of the slave-master that owned you
The same one that beat and hung you and put you through this anguish
We in America not knowing our real names or real language
Learn the location and description of Jesus if you've never seen him
If you don't know the lines it's impossible for you to read inbetween them
Now are we so gone that ain't no black pride and thats real sad
Eminem can diss black women and we don't even get mad... we surface dwellers

[Verse 2]
Lets cut to the chase and put the zodiac in it's place
Horroscopes and signs, pagan gods deceivin' a race
Now when you claim that you a Virgo (I'm a Virgo) are you sure that you are?
Do you worship the constellations or the one who created the star?
Take months of the year - September is the 9th month but I'm driven
To inform you that the root word 'Septo' means seven
So how did it get to be number 9? somehow it don't equate
How can October be the 10th month when 'Octo' means 8
Like an octopus or octogon - 8 legs and 8 sides
Artificial names invented through mythological lies
All named after so called pagan Gods in heaven
See 'Nova' means 9 but November's month number 11
To the unfathomable abyss of knowledge I delve
D-E-C 'Deca' means 10 yet December's month number 12
See before you try and test me I insist that you
Try to reasearch and see that your calendars been misconstrewed
See March was the 1st month, April used to be 2nd (listen)
May and June was 3 and 4 so now lets do some checkin' (listen)
See 2 months got removed - Quintilis and Sextilis
It's time to get this knowledge now before the effects kill us
Quint meaning 5, Sex meaning 6 - it don't stop either
They added July and August named after Julius and Augustus Caesar
Thats 5 and 6, September was 7, Octobers 8, November was 9 - now you see
It's all back in line
December's 10, January's 11th so go report this
February was the 12th and the last month plus the shortest - yeah

 

[Billy Ocean]

I'm not even going to pretend like i've heard GZA's discography from front to back... but i have heard Liquid Swords, which is supposed to be his greatest work to date... not a bad album and he has some decent skills as an MC. But there nothing "intellectuall" about that album or any of his other work that i've stumbled across. Again, am i missing something? If so, point me in the direction of something "intellectual" by the man and i'll shut up.

Based on what i've heard, i doubt he'd be able to write a song like this for instance.

[Verse 1]
Knowledge you find inside my mind is designed to kill fear
Did you know the bible was written in by William Shakespeare?
It was done in the King James version in his 46th year
The 46th psalm is coded from the top down to the rear
Wanted his name over his work to be seen and read clear
But at the time that was something King James wasn't tryna hear
Study the history of King James and you'll find out he was a queer
Might explain how Shakespeare didn't pay attention and listen clear
Go to the 46th psalm, what I'm saying is not fake
Start at the word God, count 46 words down - you will see shake
Then go to the bottom, you'll see the word refuge appear
Start right there, count 46 words up, you will see spear
Shakespeare - no coincidence, they don't teach this in classes
They tampered with the holy scriptures and then fed it to the masses
Confused by misenterpreted signs and allegories
Parables are painted out like fairy tales and wild stories
That brainwashed the world leaving theological masters
What was once the word of God is now a theatrical disaster
Words they gave us only serve to enslave us
Hurt us in murderous ways and got us out here hoping ghost worshipping save us
They don't want you black man, you think you know yourself don't you?
You got the last name, but that was the name of the slave-master that owned you
The same one that beat and hung you and put you through this anguish
We in America not knowing our real names or real language
Learn the location and description of Jesus if you've never seen him
If you don't know the lines it's impossible for you to read inbetween them
Now are we so gone that ain't no black pride and thats real sad
Eminem can diss black women and we don't even get mad... we surface dwellers

[Verse 2]
Lets cut to the chase and put the zodiac in it's place
Horroscopes and signs, pagan gods deceivin' a race
Now when you claim that you a Virgo (I'm a Virgo) are you sure that you are?
Do you worship the constellations or the one who created the star?
Take months of the year - September is the 9th month but I'm driven
To inform you that the root word 'Septo' means seven
So how did it get to be number 9? somehow it don't equate
How can October be the 10th month when 'Octo' means 8
Like an octopus or octogon - 8 legs and 8 sides
Artificial names invented through mythological lies
All named after so called pagan Gods in heaven
See 'Nova' means 9 but November's month number 11
To the unfathomable abyss of knowledge I delve
D-E-C 'Deca' means 10 yet December's month number 12
See before you try and test me I insist that you
Try to reasearch and see that your calendars been misconstrewed
See March was the 1st month, April used to be 2nd (listen)
May and June was 3 and 4 so now lets do some checkin' (listen)
See 2 months got removed - Quintilis and Sextilis
It's time to get this knowledge now before the effects kill us
Quint meaning 5, Sex meaning 6 - it don't stop either
They added July and August named after Julius and Augustus Caesar
Thats 5 and 6, September was 7, Octobers 8, November was 9 - now you see
It's all back in line
December's 10, January's 11th so go report this
February was the 12th and the last month plus the shortest - yeah

You promise you gonna shut up?

Scroll down to GZAs verse. Yea, and that's just probably a throwaway verse from his upcoming album about the universe.

http://rapgenius.com/Wu-tang-clan-keep-watch-lyrics

 

[NotaPAWG]

Not really feeling that list, man.

yeah, you're a troll. fukk outta here.

 

[cinna_man]

yeah, you're a troll. fukk outta here.

Your reading comprehension isn't so good...

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Ya...I've heard the old argument that flow and beat production is important. If you talk about these things, this thread is not for you. fukk the musical side of rap for a minute. You want some 'hard' music? All the rappers I've ever listened to have some sort of weakness. It took me a while to realize that the hardest music is just tribal music, mostly drums but sometimes with wind instruments, chanting, or song. Native Africa and America have the best tribes I've heard, but it's worldwide.

See, I hate reading books. I like nonfiction because I'm getting facts in a pure form. Fiction is so shytty... they expect you to spend 8-10 hours tracking a flowerly, repetitive, eye-straining text just to get a simple fukking moral out of it? Pass. Poetry > prose, for it's pointedness and laconic wit.

I look at rap (good rap) as poetry. Rap represents a very traditional form of storytelling. I think for about 200,000 years, you had people sitting around fires and telling stories that explained life and morals or maybe just made a few bros/chicks laugh. They added rhyming and music to it so it would be easier to remember, kind of like Homer's Illiad and Odyssey, classic novels that rhyme all the way through. Nowadays, you're finally starting to see rappers who match the poetic and thoughtful level of a Robert Frost or Langston Hughes too. Here's who I like:

-Aesop Rock
-Illogic
-Sage Francis
-Childish Gambino
-Eyedea and Abilities
-K-Rino
-Cecil Otter
-Busdriver
-Mac Lethal
-Mr Complex
-Chino XL
-Wise Intelligent
-Cormega

Tell me who I can add to my list. Who should I check out?

I'm one of the most intellectual rappers to ever grab the Mic. Change is coming. Be apart of it now. @whoisDarkPrince. Refer to the links in my Sig for proof of the realness. much props and respect.

 

[TigerLord]

Ya...I've heard the old argument that flow and beat production is important. If you talk about these things, this thread is not for you. fukk the musical side of rap for a minute. You want some 'hard' music? All the rappers I've ever listened to have some sort of weakness. It took me a while to realize that the hardest music is just tribal music, mostly drums but sometimes with wind instruments, chanting, or song. Native Africa and America have the best tribes I've heard, but it's worldwide.

See, I hate reading books. I like nonfiction because I'm getting facts in a pure form. Fiction is so shytty... they expect you to spend 8-10 hours tracking a flowerly, repetitive, eye-straining text just to get a simple fukking moral out of it? Pass. Poetry > prose, for it's pointedness and laconic wit.

I look at rap (good rap) as poetry. Rap represents a very traditional form of storytelling. I think for about 200,000 years, you had people sitting around fires and telling stories that explained life and morals or maybe just made a few bros/chicks laugh. They added rhyming and music to it so it would be easier to remember, kind of like Homer's Illiad and Odyssey, classic novels that rhyme all the way through. Nowadays, you're finally starting to see rappers who match the poetic and thoughtful level of a Robert Frost or Langston Hughes too. Here's who I like:

-Aesop Rock
-Illogic
-Sage Francis
-Childish Gambino
-Eyedea and Abilities
-K-Rino
-Cecil Otter
-Busdriver
-Mac Lethal
-Mr Complex
-Chino XL
-Wise Intelligent
-Cormega

Tell me who I can add to my list. Who should I check out?

Rakim
KRS

 

[Pink Slime]

aceyalone , j -live, sage francis , homeboy sandman, boots riley (the coup), onemanarmy, the grouch

all great mc's with intellectual , thoughtful, and positive uplifting music

dumb rappers/music have their place too though. i was listening to some migos earlier

 

[Prae]

 

[H.I.M.]

You promise you gonna shut up?

Scroll down to GZAs verse. Yea, and that's just probably a throwaway verse from his upcoming album about the universe.

http://rapgenius.com/Wu-tang-clan-keep-watch-lyrics

That's a good verse. (awful delivery though ) But nothing "intellectual" about it. He's not really saying nothing in that verse, just displaying good lyricism (with a delivery ) but not intellectual lyricism.

Break out a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word please.

 

[cinna_man]

I want to like Tonedeff, but he keeps rapping about rapping... and he's not that deep. Budden is actually alright for a well-known guy (nothing against the mainstream, but most of them suck), but I'm ultimately not a big fan.

 

[cinna_man]

That's a good verse. (awful delivery though ) But nothing "intellectual" about it. He's not really saying nothing in that verse, just displaying good lyricism (with a delivery ) but not intellectual lyricism.

Break out a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word please.

You're the only one really getting me. Who else should I check out?

 

[Pinyapplesuckas]

 

[Prae]

 

[blackslash]