cousins just dropped a similar number against superior talent.
nikka really trying act like that raptors team wasn't historically woat?
INTERESTING STAT IN KOBE VS. JORDAN DEBATE.
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nikka really trying act like that raptors team wasn't historically woat?
Bilz
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Kobe needed overtime to score 50 against a DAntoni team.
Why is this thread 7 pages? This is the dumbest opening thread ever.
BUT WE TALKIN BOUT CAREER HIGHS.. JORDAN DIDNT HAVE THE OFFENSIVE REPETOIRE TO HIT THE 70'S, LET ALONE 81
Bilz
Superstar
So why is Kobe's playoff career high only 50? Did he lack the offensive repertoire to score more than that? Let's leave out Jordan for now, several players within Kobe's era have scored around that level or better in a playoff game. You have some explaining to do.
"ONLY 50"? LOL...THATS GOLDEN
NEVER HEARD THAT 1 BEFORE....
"MAN, U SEE GAME 4? KOBE ONLY SCORED 50".....THATS WHEN U GET SLAPPED.
Bilz
Superstar
50 is very good, but several of his peers did better. Do they have better offensive repetoires? You are trying to argue that Jordan "only scoring 69" means he couldn't possibly score more, so does that mean Kobe's playoff Max is 50? These are your own arguments, sorry if you don't like them. No one else here does either.
WHAT YOU'RE DOIN IS CALLED A STRAWN-MAN ARGUMENT....KOBE'S CAREER HIGH IS MUCH HIGHER THAN MJ'S. IF KOBE NEVER HAD TO SHARE WITH SHAQ, WAS HANDED A TEAM TO HIMSELF FROM THE GET, WASNT FORCED TO PLAY A GOOD PORTION OF HIS PRIME WITH REBUILDING TEAMS, HAD PIPPEN BY HIS SIDE FOR HIS ENTIRE PEAK, ETC.....HE'D UNDISPUTEDLY HAVE NUMEROUS 80+ POINT GAMES, POSSIBLY EVEN IN THE PLAYOFFS. U GOTTA REMEMBER, WHEN KOBE FINALLY HAD A CONTENDING TEAM WITHOUT SHAQ TO SHARE THE BALL WITH, HE WAS ALREADY COMING OUT HIS PRIME. IMAGINE IF KOBE HAD A FORMIDABLE TEAM ALL TO HIMSELF FROM 2002-2007 (HIS TRUE PRIME)...THE POSSIBILITIES ARE ENDLESS AS FAR AS INDIVIDUAL ACCOLADES GO.
Bilz
Superstar
Kobe had a team all to himself. He had a supporting cast that people like you repeatedly say is the WOAT and he still topped out at 50 in the playoffs while other players scored more. Can you explain that without constantly starting arguments with "if...." ? Or are you saying that you feel Kobe was the goat regular season scorer but other people were better in the playoffs when it really mattered?
chuckifubuck
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What kinda retarded trolling is this?
If prime kobe had a contending team around him he'd be averaging LESS points, because he'd have gasol and odom types that he'd have to share the shots with.
THATS MY POINT THO, PAY ATTENTION...WHEN KOBE WAS IN HIS PRIME, HE DIDNT HAVE A FORMIDABLE SUPPORTING CAST. HE HAD TO DO ALL THE WORK ON BOTH ENDS FOR 40+ MINUTES. NO PIPPEN TO HELP CARRY THE LOAD WHILE STILL DEFERRING.. NO PIPPEN TO GUARD THE BEST PLAYER ON THE OPPOSING TEAM.. NO RODMAN TO GRAB EVERY BOARD IN SITE AND PROTECT THE PAINT DEFENSIVELY.. NO KNOCK DOWN SHOOTERS ALA STEVE KERR, JOHN PAXSON, TONI KUKOC, ETC. TO BAIL HIM OUT OUTA DOUBLE AND TRIPLE TEAMS....INSTEAD, HE HAD KWAME BROWN, LUKE WALTON, AND SMUSH PARKER TO PLAY WITH....IF U PLAY BASKETBALL, U WOULD KNOW THAT WHEN UR TEAMMATES ARE NOT FORMIDABLE, IT'S A LOT MORE TAXING, PERIOD. I'M NOT SAYING ANY1 IS THE GOAT....FOR ME, THERE ARE ABOUT 10 PLAYERS OR SO WHO ARE THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO AND ARE INTERCHANGEABLE AT GOAT. AND KOBE IS ONE OF THEM....THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GOAT, WHEN UR THE BEST AT WHAT U DO, THERE AINT A LEVEL HIGHER. MAGIC, WILT, KAREEM, HAKEEM, KOBE, BIRD, KAREEM, MJ, ROBERTSON, KOBE ALL THE BEST AT WHAT THEY DO AND ARE ALL INTERCHANGEABLE AS GOAT.
Bilz
Superstar
So when he had Shaq in the early 2000s, and all the bigs in 2008-2010, his teammates were too formidable for him to shine individually, but in the period in between, his teammates were too shytty for him to shine individually? If he's so good, why do you have to make so many excuses for him? Apparently he's the Goldilocks and the three bears of the NBA
So when he had Shaq in the early 2000s, and all the bigs in 2008-2010, his teammates were too formidable for him to shine individually, but in the period in between, his teammates were too shytty for him to shine individually? If he's so good, why do you have to make so many excuses for him? Apparently he's the Goldilocks and the three bears of the NBA
AGAIN, U NOT PAYIN ATTENTION.. SHAQ WAS GREAT, BUT UNLIKE PIPPEN, HE WAS DEMANDING AND BALL DOMINANT .. SO KOBE SACRIFICED INDUVIDUAL NUMBERS FOR TEAM SUCCESS. BY THE TIME PAU CAME AROUND, KOBE WAS ALREADY ON THE DOWNSIDE OF HIS CAREER.......AND PAU IS STILL NO PIPPEN. ITS NOT AN EXCUSE, ITS SIMPLE SCIENCE. IF KOBE HAD THE LUXURY OF PLAYIN WIT PIPPEN FOR HIS ENTIRE PRIME, NUMBERS WOULD BE VERY DIFFERENT. DENYING THIS IS DUMB.
Bilz
Superstar
You continue to be wrong.
Kobe had his best scoring binges WITHOUT high quality teammates. Your attempt to shrink Kobe's prime down to the two years he played with Smush Parker is
Kobe had plenty of games where he got a ton of shots while Shaq was getting double and triple teamed.
Yet you're acting like Kobe got the shaft in his career because he was stuck with Shaq instead of Scottie fukking Pippen?
