Is being successful without hits something to brag about?

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u r an idiot

a single is to market the project/artist to a wider audience.

because the audience is so wide the song must be easily digestible for everyone. This is why fans tend to be against hits because they stip away a lot of artists core in some cases.

Labels strive for hits because they open up a whole new avenue of promotion.

Its typically easier to further push an artist when their song is playing every hour on the hour.

fukkk what you talking about.


nothing you said contradicted what I wrote, you simply stated the singles are created for promotion and profit, why explain the obvious . The music at the same time caters to the lowest demographic of listeners and any artist that purposely caters to that market will never fail to make disposable worthless music. This is a reflection on the genre and why it has few legit legends or to a lesser degree notable artist because most are just industry mice spending their entire career chasing for a hit
 
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What are you talking about.

Fans don't care about projects anymore unless it's from their favorite artist

Hits are what keep you fed and relevant

I disagree.

People are always checking for new mixtapes, and not just from their "favorite" artist. What will get them to listen to it is whether it's quality throughout, not just a few hits and a jumble of filler.

Hits keep pop artists relevant.

Mixtape and album cuts are what keep rappers relevant.
 

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Where The Cash At with Wayne/Remy Ma

Had everyone looking for a Currensy album. No album came but he dropped mixtapes and the fans ate it up.

Eh, I'd hesitate to call either of those "hits." Even if they were, he's definitely not made anything close to a hit in the recent past.

More importantly, neither of those sparked enough interest on their own to garner nationwide attention. Curren$y's growth has been a deliberate, steady pace fueled by mixtapes and shows.
 

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I disagree.

People are always checking for new mixtapes, and not just from their "favorite" artist. What will get them to listen to it is whether it's quality throughout, not just a few hits and a jumble of filler.

Hits keep pop artists relevant.

Mixtape and album cuts are what keep rappers relevant.
Bruh people listen to projects, add the best songs to a playlist and keep it moving

Hits are what make the money. Shurmda was getting 15k to 20k to perform his 1 hit with no project out
 

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It's nonsensical just for the fact that having a hit single is an entirely separate accomplishment and revenue stream completely. ..people conflating hit records purely with industry evildoing or the lack thereof as some kind of underdog virtue is some stupid ass nerd rap smark naive bullshyt

All things being equal, having a hit > not having a hit....In pretty much every regard

That's not even what he's asking breh.

He's asking whether attaining success without a hit is noteworthy. Which it is, for the reasons I and others mentioned.

Your whole rigamarole about nerd fan naivety is entirely beside the point.
 
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Bruh people listen to projects, add the best songs to a playlist and keep it moving

Hits are what make the money. Shurmda was getting 15k to 20k to perform his 1 hit with no project out

I see what you mean about how people listen to projects. That doesn't mean that people will automatically pick out the "hits" out and save them to their playlists, though. In fact, that's very often not the case. Unless we're talking about a wholly mainstream artist whose listener base is non-Hip-Hop based.

Hits make money separately from quality, consistent projects. If Shurmda would have had a project out, he would have been making all that much more money.

And hits aren't sustainable. Hit making ability, like I said, is subject to variances in the industry climate as much as it is peoples' tastes.

Look at 50. He got big making hits. He kept trying to make hits. He kept missing the mark and falling further and further behind. He failed to understand that there is value in consistent, focused song-making directed at your core fan base.
 

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I think it is something to brag about.

Hits are overrated. The fans want an album or a mixtape full of good songs, not just a couple big tracks. Also, hits are products of many factors other than just the quality of the music; current mainstream appeal being one of them. Whereas being successful without a hit suggests consistency, which again, fans like and appreciate.

Curren$y is a good example of my point.
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I think it is something to brag about.

Hits are overrated. The fans want an album or a mixtape full of good songs, not just a couple big tracks. Also, hits are products of many factors other than just the quality of the music; current mainstream appeal being one of them. Whereas being successful without a hit suggests consistency, which again, fans like and appreciate.

Curren$y is a good example of my point.

The best example would be Tech Nine.

And Where the cash at wasn't a hit. You'd be hard pressed to find a single Currensy fan that would even remember that song let alone say that's the reason they listen to him :mjlol: Currensy's feature on Wayne's Knuck if You Buck freestyle likely did more for his career than Where the Cash At.

Of course not having a hit yet still being able to sell 100s of thousands of albums is something to be proud about. That means you have true fans. Those fans are likely to stay with you for alot longer duration in your career than those who do have hits. However almost every artist will rather have a song with millions of people listening everyday for a year than to not.
 

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It works either way :hula:

Katy Perry makes millions every year just off hit singles
 
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