Is Chris Paul bad or is his roster trash

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Nope he shouldn't but who's he gonna give it to? Like I said it's not all on him it's not all on the team. It's many factors that go into wins and losses and putting it all on one player is never the answer.


Nope, why didn't he adjust his game to work better with Blake before he fell off athletically? Why did Blake have to turn into David West and almost never got to display his full talent with Paul, which is his playmaking?

I've never seen a dude get more excuses than Paul.
 

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Chris Paul almost won 3 games by himself against the #3 defense in the league... at 6'0
Anybody trying to argue Paul doesnt help his team win or doesnt know how to win or whatever, has no idea what they're talking about. The idea itself is preposterous.

Chris Paul is literally #2 all time in career win shares per 48 minutes, with a rating of .2504. Who's #1? Michael Jordan, .2505.
 

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What kind of silly ass reasoning is this? If Curry didn't score 14 points in the 3rd quarter (Klay only had 6 poiints), couldn't you say the exact same thing of it being over if it wasn't for Curry's contribution in that quarter? The fact remains, Curry stepped up in the 3rd quarter and Klay did in the 4th. It was a combined effort from both of them to carry the bulk of the scoring load in that second half. Curry was not francis or hamster in that game like you're stating.. You're just parroting a coli fictional talking point created to slander Curry.

May have been the 2nd quarter then. Yup, I just checked...it was the 2nd quarter. OKC was up 13 and looked like they were pulling away again with a little over 4 minutes left. Over the next 5 minutes Klay scored 15 pts, the Thunder scored 12 and the Warriors actually took the lead. So like I said, the game is over in the 3rd if it wasn't for Klay going insane (and some good defense on the other end). At this point in the game Steph had 9 pts on 2-7 shooting and he even missed a couple FT. His shooting struggles in OKC were still in full effect and this point.
 

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You're making it sound like bg is being turned into kevin love/chris bosh when he's not.His usage rate and fga's are the same he still play makes he averaged 5 assists per game the last 3 seasons.As his athleticism has declined some he seems content shooting mid range j's he was still doing that this season when cp3 was out with the thumb injury ,and dj and bg clutter up the middle which is why he relies on his jumpers more now, his range has expanded which helps the clippers more than watching him corkscrew his way in the post.If cp3 had kd/pg/melo/jimmy with dj instead of bg clippers woulda been got to the wcf.

Cp3 averaged 22.5 and 12 that okc series he fukked up at the end of game 5 but he showed up that series.bg averaged 13 and 6 vs the grizzlies and let zbo herb him and intimidate him then got injured in game 5 and gets let off the hook as usual.

Neither are going anywhere this summer so :manny: we'll just agree to disagree

Breh, CP3 has essentially turned him into Kevin Love without the 3 range, when he was a rookie he took 212 shots from 16-23 ft out of 1379 FGAs, last year he took 292 of those shots out of 604 FGAs, this year he took 285 out of 971. Basically because of CP3 he is now taking the least efficient shot in the NBA as a large portion of his offense. The DJ cluttering up the middle excuse doesn't hold weight because Blake absolutely kills it when Paul is out, it has been like that since they've played together, you still haven't addressed the fact that Blake was at his best with Darren Collison.

Cp3 got murdered by :youngsabo: in that series and then choked at the end.
 

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Nope, why didn't he adjust his game to work better with Blake before he fell off athletically? Why did Blake have to turn into David West and almost never got to display his full talent with Paul, which is his playmaking?

I've never seen a dude get more excuses than Paul.

He's at fault for not meshing with Blake but that's on coaching too for not forcing the issue and letting him hold the ball as much as he does. Should he have switched it up? Yes. I never said he shouldn't but it's more than just one player/person at fault for the Clippers woes. It's not all on CP3, it's not all on Blake it's multiple factors. Thats all I'm trying to get across
 
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Pure point guards have difficulty winning championships generating all of the offense. Curry is definitely the exception to that rule, though he's less of a pure point guard. + the overall versatility of his teammates lessens the amount of pressure on him. Green, Iggy, Livingston, and to a lesser extent Klay and Barnes were capable of generating offense outside of Curry through shooting or distributing the ball. Curry was the main focal point of 2014-2015's offense, and last season the sets started running through Draymond more often (led the team in assists).

CP3's roster is constructed around his ability to distribute the ball. His teammates have niche strengths that compliment him. His players outside of Blake just do not have the versatility it takes to win with a PG leading the team. Blake is even less of a factor now due to injuries. But his playoff history can't be ignored. He's blown series leads several times.

Hate to say it but the only way Chris Paul is winning a ring is by chasing it. He's not going to get one as the franchise guy.
 
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Anybody trying to argue Paul doesnt help his team win or doesnt know how to win or whatever, has no idea what they're talking about. The idea itself is preposterous.

Chris Paul is literally #2 all time in career win shares per 48 minutes, with a rating of .2504. Who's #1? Michael Jordan, .2505.

I want CP3 in San Antonio next to Kawhi. I want to see him paired next to an elite wing scorer capable of commanding the ball and generating his own offense.

I don't think Paul is ever going win a championship as the true alpha. But I think he can win a ring chasing it on another team as the 1b/2nd option.
 

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I want CP3 in San Antonio next to Kawhi. I want to see him paired next to an elite wing scorer capable of commanding the ball and generating his own offense.

I don't think Paul is ever going win a championship as the true alpha. But I think he can win a ring chasing it on another team as the 1b/2nd option.
So Paul can hold the ball for 16 seconds before passing it to him:patrice:
 
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