Is Drake the biggest rapper/gangster rapper in the history of rap? [level 7 discussion]

Matt504

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when you from a danger.zone & folks know your fam you gotta politic for their sake as well as your own

you don't get to run from where you come from unless you don't care about anyone & are willing to never be able to go back

that's different from a individual with zero ties up until entering the entertainment buisness

how many of these street nikkas around aubrey knew him before the rap shyte¿

it's two different sets of circumstances

i think you talking just to talk

you not a green suburban coochie are you¿

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You're arguing about paths to a destination when my argument is about two people in the same destination.

nikkas will handle business for Meek out of loyalty and nikkas will handle business for Drake for a check, the point both Drake and Meek are in position to make those calls and have shyt get done. The motivation of the worker doesn't really matter here.
 

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None of these wanna be gangster rap dudes have a say and never did have a say...

The only rap dude that had a street element that was a big star and had a say was Jay Z.

Drake gets told what to do

Meek gets told what to do

Tupac got told what to do

None of those dudes get told what to do.

Jayz bosses are white jews
 

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None of these wanna be gangster rap dudes have a say and never did have a say...

The only rap dude that had a street element that was a big star and had a say was Jay Z.

Drake gets told what to do

Meek gets told what to do

Tupac got told what to do

Who's telling them what to do?

You can be in a role where you're giving and taking orders, this is how a basic hierarchy works. A Baby or a J. Prince can give an order to Drake that he'll respect just like a Meek or a Drake could give orders to the many people under them that will be followed.
 

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Think about, with Drake's level of money, he can order professional hits of every street level gang. Drake aint being extorted, he pays a retainer fee to the streets the same way he would to a lawyer and both would go to work for him to clean shyt up.


you're reaching breh
 

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You're arguing about paths to a destination when my argument is about two people in the same destination.

nikkas will handle business for Meek out of loyalty and nikkas will handle business for Drake for a check, the point both Drake and Meek are in position to make those calls and have shyt get done. The motivation of the worker doesn't really matter here.
what calls are you talking about¿

meek is in tune so he can keep his loved ones safe & have the option of going home

aubrey is tied up off chasing a lifestyle that fascinated him

how you arrive at a point & why you put yourself there are maybe more important than a current position

they really not in the same spot

fukk going on with you bro this some ain't off the porch yet talk coming from your side

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I'm entertaining all opinions fam, I don't think I'm some unreasonable know it all. Do you care to explain how I'm reaching?


its not easy to just place hits on nikkas just because you have money. And he'd be food if it wasn't for his ties with J prince and Birdman. Drake can't even speak for himself because J Prince says so, and Birdman has had this guy for 6 albums and while the media speculates once a year whether THIS is the year Drake leaves Cash Money. He's being extorted and two of the biggest street execs ever are firmly in his pockets. He's not "paying a retainer fee"
 

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its not easy to just place hits on nikkas just because you have money. And he'd be food if it wasn't for his ties with J prince and Birdman. Drake can't even speak for himself because J Prince says so, and Birdman has had this guy for 6 albums and while the media speculates once a year whether THIS is the year Drake leaves Cash Money. He's being extorted and two of the biggest street execs ever are firmly in his pockets. He's not "paying a retainer fee"

Drake is not getting extorted he like the dudes that pay gang members to be down. He can leave when he wants
 

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what calls are you talking about¿

meek is in tune so he can keep his loved ones safe & have the option of going home

aubrey is tied up off chasing a lifestyle that fascinated him

how you arrive at a point & why you put yourself there are maybe more important than a current position

they really not in the same spot

fukk going on with you bro this some ain't off the porch yet talk coming from your side

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Your argument centers around authenticity in arriving at a position, my position is that your argument is flawed because of that position. Meek gets to keep his loved ones safe and has the option of going home because pockets are being greased, he's paying nikkas and if he wasn't aint no amount of "loyalty" would keep him protected from becoming food.
 

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Drake is not getting extorted he like the dudes that pay gang members to be down. He can leave when he wants

This is exactly what I'm saying. nikkas who are paying gang members are also getting something out of the deal, it's not just some one sided relationship.
 

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Drake is an ethnic pop artist, better yet an opportunist, that will draw from whatever culture he feels tht can make him a hit, for his crossover hits.

If he feels tht gogo music is tha move you'll see him in tha music video wit a Redskins snapback & some new balances callin nikkas bammas and talking trash about 'murrland':mjlol:

He'll pay fat trel and some other local nikkas to appear in his video and give shoutouts to chuck brown to make it seem like he's authentic.

Don't forget tha nikka was an actor b4 he ever set foot in tha booth.

If in living color was still around they'd clown him to death like they did vanilla ice and snow, cuz he's basically a more versatile evolved version of them.

And nikkas need to stop conflating being an asset to certain industry nikkas with certain street ties to being bout it/respected figures on a street level. Yall overplaying tht j prince/baby connection too much. Hell if nikkas realize tht tunechi is just a rappin ass nikka with no stripes, and tht nikka was born n raised in fukkin hollygrove, then why should nikkas consider drake anything other than what he is, a valuable asset.
 

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Who's telling them what to do?

You can be in a role where you're giving and taking orders, this is how a basic hierarchy works. A Baby or a J. Prince can give an order to Drake that he'll respect just like a Meek or a Drake could give orders to the many people under them that will be followed.

Lol no...

They are being extorted and bossed around...

Drake is a mark just like any other big time street rapper was a mark...outside of Jay Z.

Drake just knew he had to be down with some Americans or he'll be another corny Canadian.
 

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Drake is not getting extorted he like the dudes that pay gang members to be down. He can leave when he wants

What yall fail to realize is some of the gangsters he's paying are the nikkas he's signed to! Man can't even speak for himself unless J Prince says so. Every year people talk about how Drake is so smart and he's got all types of jew strategies to leave Cash Money yet he's still signed there. Scorpion is his 3rd or 4th album in a row that was supposed to be his last on CM. But he's still on the official roster. Guess he can leave whenever he wants though right :pachaha:

By the way, the dudes that "pay gang members to be down" are being extorted. Keep thinking guys like Chris Brown can just leave whenever he wants :mjgrin:
 
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