Is Frank Gore a 1st or 2nd ballot HOFer?

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career numbers def there but was probably never a top 3 back any season he played. maybe at his peak w San fran.

should be HOF off career numbers I say 2nd ballot
 

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Fitz made All Pro 3 times and was in the Pro Bowl 11 times, it's not analogous. Gore made the Pro Bowl 6 times in a 14 year career, that ain't that great.
They let more WR's in than RB's.. compared to his RB peers over the past 15 years, outside of AP and LD, what RB has made the pro bowl more?

But using your own theory here.. Larry was never THE #1 WR in the NFL ever in his career.. always top 5.. so are you saying he shouldnt get in?? Thats what you used for Frank Gore, that he was never THE #1 RB at any point
 

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Different eras and different conference as a whole for most of them.. No one said Frank Gore is the best running back of ALL TIME and here you are comparing him to Walter Payton, Barry Sanders and Emmit Smith, 3 of the arguably best running backs of all times :mindblown: So Larry Fitzgerald shouldnt get in because he was never as good as Randy Moss, Jerry Rice or TO ? :mindblown:

and you never know, the 49ers may retire his number. Hes still an active players so I dont think they can retire it now anyway.. so im not getting why thats used as a point here
I guess you can talk yourself into anything especially if you are reading what the other poster is actually writing :mjlol:

If his rushing yards are 4th all time right now....what makes you think that he WON'T be compared to the others on the list based on those stats when it comes time to vote??? You think those who vote on the HOFers are going to come up with the fan math and say..., "well he played in a different era!" when his resume comes up short?

You're reading what you want to read in this case...I listed his surrounding people on the top 10 list. I can name 10 others (Tony Dorsett, Marshall Faulk, Thurman Thomas etc etc) and his resume is still not there. Sorry. It hurts I know...but that's reality.

They're going to look at his complete body of work and compare it to the company of RBs already there. Period. It doesn't compare or add up, the math just isn't there imo.

He MIGHT get in especially if he moves up a spot or 2...but DEFINITELY not a 1st or 2nd imo. It's gonna be an argument of "well, he is 3rd or 4th all time" and the counter argument will be "BUT what else does he have..How do you have ALl Time yards without ALL time recognition in any category year to year??"
 

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They let more WR's in than RB's.. compared to his RB peers over the past 15 years, outside of AP and LD, what RB has made the pro bowl more?

But using your own theory here.. Larry was never THE #1 WR in the NFL ever in his career.. always top 5.. so are you saying he shouldnt get in?? Thats what you used for Frank Gore, that he was never THE #1 RB at any point
They're 2 different positions obviously...and they're graded differently...but even with that argument....Fitz is a sure in 1st or 2nd ballot...

Larry Fitzgerald
Frank Gore

LFG led the league in receptions TWICE and lead in receiving touchdowns TWICE. You can definitely make the argument that he was the top WR in those years. He's in the debate.

Frank Gore doesn't have the resume to have any debate as being the top gun at any one time imo. Like I said...he's a good RB, but not HOF material
 

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They let more WR's in than RB's.. compared to his RB peers over the past 15 years, outside of AP and LD, what RB has made the pro bowl more?

But using your own theory here.. Larry was never THE #1 WR in the NFL ever in his career.. always top 5.. so are you saying he shouldnt get in?? Thats what you used for Frank Gore, that he was never THE #1 RB at any point

I'm not arguing the point that Larry won't make the HoF, because he will and Gore will. I think that Larry will have to wait too, there are a bunch of great WRs that aren't in and he's gotta get in line behind them(Torry **** and Isaac Bruce immediately come to mind).

I do think Larry was impacted very negatively by the absolutely shytty QB play
 

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I don't think it's as cut or dry as you're making it. I am a person that thinks Gore will get in because of his counting stats but you're talking about a guy who:

- never led the league in rushing yards
- never led the league in TDs
- was never voted an All-Pro


So you've got a guy who has never been top 2 at his position at any time in his career, never led the league in rushing yards, only has a handful of Pro Bowl attempts... this is for the Hall of Fame not the Hall of Very Good for a Very Long Time

I agree with pretty much everything you said. He will probably get in after at least a three-year wait. As he has the longevity and compiled stats.

Players that get in first ballot sre dominant players during their peak and prime years. You also have to consider that with this heavy stat era, he will be going up against wide receivers, quarterbacks, and other running backs with extremely high seasonal numbers.

Saying he's not a first-ballot hall-of-famer is not the same as saying he will never get in. Some of these posters in this thread can't seem to grasp that simple concept.
 

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Was never top 3 or All Pro...just very consistent

He should make it but hes like 3rd ballot

This not a diss at all...but 1st ballot is for DOMINANT players not just very good for a very long time

Exactly.

First ballot is for players like Moss, Peterson, and Tomlinson.

Those players not only had great career numbers, but we're absolutely dominant during their Prime in peak years.

Gore will probably get in due to his cumulative numbers, but he won't get in first ballot, nor should he. That's not an insult to him at all, but it's just the truth. almost every team in the NFL would love to have a prime Frank Gore on their team, but that doesn't mean he's first-ballot material.:manny:.
 

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back in 2011, I remember folks laughing at Harbaugh for this

Jim Harbaugh: Frank Gore Deserves a Statue for Breaking Niners Rushing Record

Jim Harbaugh: Frank Gore Deserves a Statue for Breaking Niners Rushing Record
December 6, 2011
by Steve DelVecchio
http://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...729/attachment/jim-harbaugh-frank-gore-statue
All is well in San Francisco at the moment. With four games remaining in the season, the Niners have already clinched a division title. They are well on their way to a first-round playoff bye and have arguably the best defense in the NFC. When healthy, they also have one of the best running backs in the league — a seventh-year player who just became the franchise’s all-time leading rusher. For that, head coach Jim Harbaugh believes Frank Gore deserves to be enshrined.
http://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...729/attachment/jim-harbaugh-frank-gore-statue
“There should be a statue to Frank,” Harbaugh said according to the San Francisco Chronicle. “Maybe with the new stadium … A life-size statue of him in one of those cool positions he gets in – about 6 inches off the ground, or a leg going one way, and the other going the other, twisting and turning. It’s just so cool. It’s just so cool to slow the tape down and watch what he does.”

Nothing against Frank, but his franchise record has to be one of the most underwhelming of all time. Being the franchise leader in anything is an accomplishment to be proud of, but I don’t think I’d go giving a guy a statue when he has 7,396 career rushing yards. Then again, the coach making those comments was the same one who called Alex Smith an elite quarterback. Taking it to the next level with player praise is nothing new for Harbaugh. With a record of 10-2 and an NFC West crown after Week 13, who are we to question his style?
 

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Peterson is the only 1st ballot RB coming up.

Frank will get in down the line off longevity.
 
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