BakoNoFlex
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Lilliard is nice, but damn. He's playing for the 8th seed... He also caught sweeps in the playoffs 3 years in a row 
Is It Safe to Say Dame Has Passed Up Kyrie and Steph?
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Gil Scott-Heroin
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x-player is 10-0 against y-player in the postseason
x-player has two MVPs; y-player has ZERO
x-player has three championships; y-player has ZERO
x-player has won more games than any player in NBA history over a five-year period; y-player regularly fights just to make a playoff spot
x-player has changed the landscape of the modern NBA; y-player is an honourable mention.
Now, would any of you fukk nikkas be rewriting history like this saying y-player "passed up" x-player if this concerned any other player not named Steph?
How come you fukk nikkas don't bring up Magic not defending his opposite when comparing him to his contemporaries? How come you fukk nikkas don't bring up those stacked Lakers squads that Magic played on when comparing him to his contemporaries? Why do y'all only play this hypothetical game to marginalize Steph's accolades and standing in the game, but don't do it with your favourite NBA greats?
x-player has two MVPs; y-player has ZERO
x-player has three championships; y-player has ZERO
x-player has won more games than any player in NBA history over a five-year period; y-player regularly fights just to make a playoff spot
x-player has changed the landscape of the modern NBA; y-player is an honourable mention.
Now, would any of you fukk nikkas be rewriting history like this saying y-player "passed up" x-player if this concerned any other player not named Steph?
How come you fukk nikkas don't bring up Magic not defending his opposite when comparing him to his contemporaries? How come you fukk nikkas don't bring up those stacked Lakers squads that Magic played on when comparing him to his contemporaries? Why do y'all only play this hypothetical game to marginalize Steph's accolades and standing in the game, but don't do it with your favourite NBA greats?
FLORIDA BOI
All Star
Please stop kyrie ain't up there with Steph and dame
murksiderock
Superstar
Dame has hit two game winners in the playoffs, and three great playoff series: '14 1st Rd vs Houston (W); '16 Semis vs GS (L); '19 1st Rd vs OKC (W). Here's the rest of his postseason career:
•gentlemen swept by SA in '14 Semis while shooting 41% from the field and 17% from three, averaging 19.8 (season average was 20.7 shooting .424/.394 and the previous series vs Houston was 25.5 on .468/.489)...
•gentlemen swept by Memphis in 1st Rd while going 21.6/4/4.6 on .406/.161 shooting (regular season he was 21/4.6/6.2 on .434/.343)...
•caught a broken Clippers team for his first series win as a #1 in '16 and was still outplayed H2H in the games Chris Paul played in, averaged 22/4.2/5.2 on .374/.347 shooting (regular season he was 25/4/6.8 on .419/.375)...
•outplayed H2H by Steph while getting swept as an 8 seed in '17; .433/.281 shooting..
•thoroughly outplayed by Jrue and Rondo in an '18 1st Rd sweep by Nola, dont even have to post the embarrassing stats here...
•after going off for 33/4.4/6 on .461/.481 vs OKC, fell to 24.1/4.9/6.9 on .395/.317 vs Denver and GS, getting outplayed by Steph H2H (again)...
We can go to specific games if you want to because he has plenty of stinkers...
Since Aldridge left in '15, Dame has been a #1 for 5 years and has a 3-4 series record and a total record of 13-22 (.371). Think about that, three playoff series wins in 5 years, two legendary playoff moments that both came in the 1st Rd, now he's Cobra Clutch Killer?
If we want to say he's only behind Steph now fine, theres no way he's greater than Steph without more consistent winning, which obviously isnt happening this year. As it is, in the PG-rich era of the '10s he's no higher than 4th at best as Steph, Westbrook, and Paul were the defining points of the era with much more of an impact on the sport. The thing he has in his favor is all three of those guys are aging out, Dame is younger and still has time to clean up his resume...
If only every player had the same low bar to be considered as graciously as yall regard Dame. He's a great player. He hasn't proven to be consistently great in the playoffs or impact the game to a legendary level like other contemporaries of his same era...
murksiderock
Superstar
I'm glad you went here because I was going here next...
Steph is consistently minimized compared to other great guards (they do this in the Wade comp with him too) like other greats didn't have great teammates to help them along...
Meanwhile all Dame has to do is make a playoff spot and put up regular season numbers and he's the hottest thing out. This dude is so overrated...
Act like the warriors didn’t sweep the blazers without KD while Steph was Avg 36 Brehs? Act like Curry ain’t a 2 time mvp with one being unanimous brehs, act like curry for the past 6 years before Durant haven’t been blowing teams out to the point he had to sit out many 4th quarters because of his ability to strength the floor and defense Brehs
Steph in the “I’m back game” on a bum knee in the playoffs in OT with the team on his back brehs...
Y’all nikkas be talking out the sides of y’all gums
Y’all nikkas be talking out the sides of y’all gums
Steph is better than Dame but its not a big gap as the H2H shows. Steph owns Portland but Draymond owns them just as hard if not more so. Draymond was just as crucial in all those Blazers playoff games as Steph if not more considering him being able to blitz and recover is always what killed their offense and he shut the paint down too. Portland cant make em pay after Dame gets trapped cause their bigs cant pass like that and CJ is mediocre. When Steph gets trapped Draymond one of the best passing bigs in the league (and Iggy one of the best passing wings) and makes the right play. Draymond was even sonning Portland when Steph was injured in 2016.
Draymond in 2019 VS Portland: 16.5/12/9/3/2 on 54% shooting
Draymond for his career in 13 playoff games VS Portland - 18/11/8/3/2 49/45/74 shooting
Put Dame in Kerr's system with Draymond/Klay and all those defenders and things aint much different TBH. Steph is better.......but look at what Steph was doing with Mark Jackson before Kerrs system and starting Draymond who emerged. After that Steph took off into another stratosphere. Hes in a much better system/position to hide all his weaknesses and bolster his strengths than Dame is.
Draymond in 2019 VS Portland: 16.5/12/9/3/2 on 54% shooting
Draymond for his career in 13 playoff games VS Portland - 18/11/8/3/2 49/45/74 shooting
Put Dame in Kerr's system with Draymond/Klay and all those defenders and things aint much different TBH. Steph is better.......but look at what Steph was doing with Mark Jackson before Kerrs system and starting Draymond who emerged. After that Steph took off into another stratosphere. Hes in a much better system/position to hide all his weaknesses and bolster his strengths than Dame is.
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So we gonna pretend that big ass cac in Phoenix didn’t land on Curry’s wrist breaking it?
Steph was always trending upwards even under Don Nelson’s system.. Dude never had a fall off, Mark Jackson put the ball in Currys hands running the offense through him, kerr had curry off the ball..
Don’t use Dame slogans like that Steph never switched teams... He brung glory to the town.. Dame can respect that being a native...21 & 7
ON 40%FG 24%3P
IN 5 GAMES THIS SEASON..
HE RAN FROM THE GRIND.
nikkaS GONNA PRETEND
THAT STEPH & MONTA NEVER HAPPENED?
STEPH & CJ WOULD BE THE SAME shyt.
The real argument should be is Dame better than Kyrie and Westbrook... ABSO-fukking-lutely
Bro Toronto literally did the same shyt box and 1 on Steph
IT WASNT JUST KLAY.
THEY WERE LITERALLY BLIZTING HIM
WITH 2 DEFENDERS...
THEY STOLE THAT FROM THE PELICANS
THE YR PRIOR.
FORCE HIS TEAMMATES TO BEAT YOU
AND IF THEY DO YOU TIP YOUR CAP.
that’s no slight on either player that shows how dangerous they are and you just exploiting the FO for not putting better players around Dame lol
Again is it Steph fault the GS FO put better players around him Vs Portland? You gotta direct that energy at the incompetent FO of the Blazers lolMITCH RICHMOND EVER HAD THREE 60 PT GAMES IN ONE SEASON?
STEPH GETS SURROUNDED WITH
COMPETENT 2 WAY PLAYERS...
DAME GETS SURROUNDED WITH ONE WAY PLAYERS....
GUYS WHO CANT SCORE BUT DEFEND
OR GUYS WHO CANT DEFEND BUT SCORE.
THATS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE 2.