Is Jason Kidd a top 3 PG of all time?

[Heelmatic]

Where do you have him ranked? Ahead of Isaiah? Stockton? Oscar? Payton? Cousy?

I have him 4th behind Magic, Oscar, & Zeke.

There's certainly a debate for 3rd, Isaiah, Stockton, & Kidd all have strong arguments. Got new though I'd take Zeke over both of em and then Kidd and Stockton are interchangeable IMO.

had him #2 after Magic.... had him 3rd after Isaiah

the disrespect of Oscar by those two clowns

 

[charmander]

no

 

[King P]

Top 5

1) Magic

2) Oscar

3) Stockton

4) Kidd

5) Zeke

 

[Carlos Huerta]

Where do you have him ranked? Ahead of Isaiah? Stockton? Oscar? Payton? Cousy?

I have him 4th behind Magic, Oscar, & Zeke.

There's certainly a debate for 3rd, Isaiah, Stockton, & Kidd all have strong arguments. Got new though I'd take Zeke over both of em and then Kidd and Stockton are interchangeable IMO.

had him #2 after Magic.... had him 3rd after Isaiah

the disrespect of Oscar by those two clowns

i have him exactly where you do. I think he was better than Stockton.

 

[froggle]

Where do you have him ranked? Ahead of Isaiah? Stockton? Oscar? Payton? Cousy?

I have him 4th behind Magic, Oscar, & Zeke.

There's certainly a debate for 3rd, Isaiah, Stockton, & Kidd all have strong arguments. Got new though I'd take Zeke over both of em and then Kidd and Stockton are interchangeable IMO.

had him #2 after Magic.... had him 3rd after Isaiah

the disrespect of Oscar by those two clowns

An argument could be made for top 3, however there are a lot of good PGs. Stockton, while white, was really really good at running the offense and was a decent defender and had a good shot. Kidd in his prime was beastly A triple double machine and really made his teammates better than what they really were. Top 3...its so close

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

No.

1. Magic
2. Robertson
3. Thomas

 

[Black Ball]

Where do you have him ranked? Ahead of Isaiah? Stockton? Oscar? Payton? Cousy?

I have him 4th behind Magic, Oscar, & Zeke.

There's certainly a debate for 3rd, Isaiah, Stockton, & Kidd all have strong arguments. Got new though I'd take Zeke over both of em and then Kidd and Stockton are interchangeable IMO.

had him #2 after Magic.... had him 3rd after Isaiah

the disrespect of Oscar by those two clowns

It would be hard to put him over Stockton. I haven't given it much thought though.

 

[BlackFeet]

What makes Kidd better than The Glove tho?

 

[Carlos Huerta]

An argument could be made for top 3, however there are a lot of good PGs. Stockton, while white, was really really good at running the offense and was a decent defender and had a good shot. Kidd in his prime was beastly A triple double machine and really made his teammates better than what they really were. Top 3...its so close

 

[Street Knowledge]

I've take quite a few over him at their peaks. What hold his back his that he was a liability as an offensive anchor because of his godawful shooting and inability to put a team on his back offensively like other great PG's. The nets got exposed in a half court Set when they played real teams In the finals

 

[Kid Coli]

Top 5 breh

 

[Carlos Huerta]

I've take quite a few over him at their peaks. What hold his back his that he was a liability as an offensive anchor because of his godawful shooting and inability to put a team on his back offensively like other great PG's. The nets got exposed in a half court Set when they played real teams In the finals

see this is where you cats take shyt too far. Averaging around 15 ppg for a PG is not a "liability", especially when you're responsible for making career seasons for the likes of Richard Jefferson, Kerry Kittles, Kenyon Martin, etc.

 

[LurkMoar]

Oscar was that dude.. But kidd is top 5 to me

 

[THE K-MAN]

1. Magic
2. Robertson
3. Thomas

 

[MooseMouthMthafuga]

What makes Kidd better than The Glove tho?

GP was never really a PG like the rest of the guys in the top 5.


He was somewhat of a combo guard...Picture a less explosive Westbrook.


His best years('99-'02) came during the Westphal era in Seattle.They played that run & gun style and Payton had the best spurt of his career.Ironically, the Sonics sucked ass during that strecth.GP was never one to make his team mates elevate their game.Stats really don't tell the whole story.Looking at stats, you'd think Marbury made his teammates better, to


Payton was more of a scoring pg....had a ugly ass, knuckle ball J, and a decent post game because of his size.His offense was ugly, but effective.

He averaged 16 points and 6.7 APG for his career.Iverson, who's always getting ragged on for being a ball hog, averaged 6.2 APG for his career.



I'd definitely take Kidd over Payton.Kidd carried a bunch of scrubs to the NBA finals.Not only scrubs, but a franchise that had a culture of losing and was unaccustomed to success.He lifted that whole franchise up.


What did Payton do? what is he remembered for besides a cool nickname? Where's his all time NBA great moments/ defining moments? When Payton had the Sonics all to himself, they were mediocre as shyt.



Kevin Johnson was definitely better.....And I'm contemplating taking Tim Hardaway over him, to