Is Jay-Z sabotaging J. Cole?

[JYoung24]

Idk. Drake is dope 2 me 2

I can't listen to that shyt he puts oyt and his bars are average to me

 

[J.Pinkman]

I was listening to Kanyes Big Brother track the other day, is it me or did Jay treat Kanye the same back then as he does Cole now?

 

[Thoughts]

 

[DigitalDopeman]

tbh...maybe Cole feel like he dont need all that extra shxt from Jay, maybe a verse here or there and he good. Cole is Jays artist, not his best friend or lil brother..all he needed was jay to pay attention and sign him and he prolly feel he can do the rest..

 

[Wild self]

tbh...maybe Cole feel like he dont need all that extra shxt from Jay, maybe a verse here or there and he good. Cole is Jays artist, not his best friend or lil brother..all he needed was jay to pay attention and sign him and he prolly feel he can do the rest..

Less attention from Jay with putting in quality work = stardom. Look at Kanye. People don't know him as Jay's artist, they know him for him.

 

[DigitalDopeman]

Less attention from Jay with putting in quality work = stardom. Look at Kanye. People don't know him as Jay's artist, they know him for him.

Exactly...to be a legend you gotta come in and stand on ya own two....not be birdfed and co-signed to death....from waht it look like, Cole holdin his own and got an actual fanbase , not a bunch of hype machine bandwagoners...

 

[Wild self]

Exactly...to be a legend you gotta come in and stand on ya own two....not be birdfed and co-signed to death....from waht it look like, Cole holdin his own and got an actual fanbase , not a bunch of hype machine bandwagoners...

Beans and Bleek suffered from too much of Jay's co sign. Looked what happened to them. Beans is mad that he can't make a legit buzz of his own and probably can't even leave the state of Pennsylvania.

 

[DontEemTry]

This thread reminds me why Jay said in that Breakfast Club interview that nikkas sayin so and so is in the way is just a losers mentality.

 

[Mr.Black]

its not like camels knows talent anyway, he tried for how long to force bleek on people?

 

[DontEemTry]

its not like camels knows talent anyway, he tried for how long to force bleek on people?

Bleek put out much better albums than Cole, be serious for a second.

 

[Mr.Black]

Bleek put out much better albums than Cole, be serious for a second.

I dont even like j.cole but malik was so goddamn forced that it made no sense, the only solo bleek song i ever liked was that intro to his shyt over that fire ass premo beat

 

[JXNZ]

"HAD A SPARK WHEN YOU STARTED BUT NOW YOU JUST GARBAGE"

 

[DigitalDopeman]

Beans and Bleek suffered from too much of Jay's co sign. Looked what happened to them. Beans is mad that he can't make a legit buzz of his own and probably can't even leave the state of Pennsylvania.

thats because most of their buzz was a facade...they fans they had were mostly fans because of Jay...when they did their own thing, not many cared.....bein co-signed usually brings you fickle fans thats gon jump ship soon as that next new nikka come along...Cole been creatin his own path by workin for it dolo...

 

[Eastside Get The Money]

Cole's first album debuted at number 1 and went Gold. Cole's second album debuted at number 2 and went Gold. Both album's singles garnered Grammy nominations...


So "sabotage" isn't the word. Overshadowing might be the case but J.Cole stands on his own. His album was one of the best of the year and he went toe to toe with Kanye.

Born Sinner and Yeezus were my albums of the year
Cole is just another example that talent will shine through anything

 

[McPiff]

This thread is so stupid.