Is Jim Buss reason why FAs avoiding the Lakers?

[Jesus Herbert Christ]

How bout both are to blame...all the points about Jim Buss are 100% valid from his inexperience to letting a personal feud start the domino effect of the franchise taking a quick nose dive.
But kobe is notorious for being a hated teammate and most importantly, that contract sealed the deal, I was furious that day because I knew the day he signed that contract the team I've loved since childhood just doesn't exist anymore. I know the name and logo are still the same but the Lakers died with Jerry Buss. RIP

 

[Jesus Shuttlesworth]

Let's not underestimate Kobe's androgynous stan base as well.

 

[MsBigHead]

You still a heats stan right? I wouldn't talk about shooting guards if I was you, Kobe gon be lookin like Kobe again while d-flab struggles to play more than 20 minutes. Since you had no real retort to what I said I suggest to gtfo this thread and go make your man a sandwich or some shyt. Leave GOAT franchise discussions to the ones that don't have an agenda against Kobe to the point where they don't listen to facts from the ground.

Lakers can not be referred to as the GOAT franchise until Kobe retires

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

How bout both are to blame...all the points about Jim Buss are 100% valid from his inexperience to letting a personal feud start the domino effect of the franchise taking a quick nose dive.
But kobe is notorious for being a hated teammate and most importantly, that contract sealed the deal, I was furious that day because I knew the day he signed that contract the team I've loved since childhood just doesn't exist anymore. I know the name and logo are still the same but the Lakers died with Jerry Buss. RIP

No it's not both, this is 100% jim buss period. Do you think if Phil had jim's job that players would avoid the Lakers because Kobe is a psychotically hard worker. If he was so difficult to get along with we had no business winning any titles with him at all. No young player wants to waste good years playing under incompetent management. Who besides smush has talked about Kobe being a bad teammate? Why didn't things fall apart on those Olympic teams then? I swear yall make Kobe sound like he's T.O. or some shyt...

Ignore the garbage in a position of power to spin a bullshyt narrative brehs.

 

[Gravity]

Gasol got two titles off that ruthlessness, Odom is a sensitive fukk but still managed to play many years alongside Kobe. If playing alongside Kobe is really the issue then these new players are even more p*ssy than I ever imagined and shouldn't be in LA.

Kobe put up with Shaq's shyt for years for the sake of winning. To me saying it's Kobe is just a shytty excuse, it all boils down to the mayhem in the front office. Losing Phil is a much bigger reason than Kobe still being around, if Phil was doing for us what he's doing for the knicks we wouldn't have had a problem with free agents. Yall gotta realize Phil and jim been at war since the 3peat, jim absolutely hates Phil and vice versa so it was all too easy for Phil to paint a terrible picture to melo of the situation in LA hell he can spread that message to all free agents.

It's no amount of recruiting Kobe can do cuz even he's been at wits end with these useless shytheads, these the same nikkaz that wasted Kobe's best prime years making him a box office draw rather than a championship contender. As long as jim is a part of the Lakers the team won't prosper and that's even after Kobe leaves.

The bold is true but your overall point isn't. Even if you don't fault Kobe for FAs not coming the fact that his presence isn't attracting cats to come says a lot in and of itself. It's convenient for you to put this all on Buss and believe in some conspiracy theory about Phil getting in everyone's ear but you've got to keep it real. Cats didn't really want to come and play with your man. The Lakers organization and LA sells itself. Buss isn't that bad where players are going to turn a good opportunity in LA down. Not wanting to play with Kobe had to be some kind of factor. They had the cap space despite Kobe's contract andguys still passed. Phil has been the only coach who seems to have been able to tame Kobe and establish himself as the clear leader. All of the other coaches seem to have had to defer to Kobe. That whole Howard fiasco just didn't look bad on Dwight.

 

[I'm Chillin]

You still a heats stan right? I wouldn't talk about shooting guards if I was you, Kobe gon be lookin like Kobe again while d-flab struggles to play more than 20 minutes. Since you had no real retort to what I said I suggest to gtfo this thread and go make your man a sandwich or some shyt. Leave GOAT franchise discussions to the ones that don't have an agenda against Kobe to the point where they don't listen to facts from the ground.

Oh shyt.. That's a heat fan? Talking about role players?

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

The bold is true but your overall point isn't. Even if you don't fault Kobe for FAs not coming the fact that his presence isn't attracting cats to come says a lot in and of itself. It's convenient for you to put this all on Buss and believe in some conspiracy theory about Phil getting in everyone's ear but you've got to keep it real. Cats didn't really want to come and play with your man. The Lakers organization and LA sells itself. Buss isn't that bad where players are going to turn a good opportunity in LA down. Not wanting to play with Kobe had to be some kind of factor. They had the cap space despite Kobe's contract andguys still passed. Phil has been the only coach who seems to have been able to tame Kobe and establish himself as the clear leader. All of the other coaches seem to have had to defer to Kobe. That whole Howard fiasco just didn't look bad on Dwight.

Yes he is that bad. That's how I know you don't know shyt about this situation. Look, I know you guys really love to shyt on Kobe but this is one situation where he isn't at fault. What good is being in LA if you're not going to win Kobe or no Kobe? Players saw how jim chose to feed into a petty beef by hiring f'ucktoni over bringing in Phil like Dwight Howard wanted. Is that Kobe's fault too? Why would any young superstar want to play for a front office that'd choose petty female shyt like that over the right move?

Melo gave us the time of day just because of Kobe it damn sure wasn't because of the credentials of the guy making basketball decisions for the Lakers. You're not a Laker stan like me and some others so you don't understand the feud that exists between Phil and jim so I don't at all put it past him to relay the message to Carmelo that signing with the Lis a long term death sentence cuz it'll keep jim around and essentially keep bad management around with him. But whatever, I know you'll still believe Kobe and his measly 2 year contract had more blame than a front office that's shown itself to be garbage for multiple years now.

 

[Dwight Howard]

The bold is true but your overall point isn't. Even if you don't fault Kobe for FAs not coming the fact that his presence isn't attracting cats to come says a lot in and of itself. It's convenient for you to put this all on Buss and believe in some conspiracy theory about Phil getting in everyone's ear but you've got to keep it real. Cats didn't really want to come and play with your man. The Lakers organization and LA sells itself. Buss isn't that bad where players are going to turn a good opportunity in LA down. Not wanting to play with Kobe had to be some kind of factor. They had the cap space despite Kobe's contract andguys still passed. Phil has been the only coach who seems to have been able to tame Kobe and establish himself as the clear leader. All of the other coaches seem to have had to defer to Kobe. That whole Howard fiasco just didn't look bad on Dwight.

dog...Kobe is 35 years old coming off 2 injuries. its like yall refuse to use common sense when it comes to Kobe. I dont see top FA"s signing up to play with a 36 year old Dirk either. Is it not understandable that top FA's want to go to teams where they are either the clear-cut leader of the team (melo) or grow with younger talented players? It has nothing to do with Kobe being a cancer or whatever shyt yall like to say.

and Buss isnt that bad?

he hired Mike D'Antoni over Phil Jackson, enough said

 

[Jesus Herbert Christ]

No it's not both, this is 100% jim buss period. Do you think if Phil had jim's job that players would avoid the Lakers because Kobe is a psychotically hard worker. If he was so difficult to get along with we had no business winning any titles with him at all. No young player wants to waste good years playing under incompetent management. Who besides smush has talked about Kobe being a bad teammate? Why didn't things fall apart on those Olympic teams then? I swear yall make Kobe sound like he's T.O. or some shyt...

Ignore the garbage in a position of power to spin a bullshyt narrative brehs.

So you ignore half my post talking about the contract? Ok hypocrite. If you take a minute to stop guzzling Kobe's jizz you'll see that contract was the nail in the coffin and I refuse to blame anyone but kobe. For being such a "psychotically hard worker" he was very quick to sign that deal knowing damn well it wouldn't give them enough cap room to sign the right players to get that next chip that he's been working his career to tie MJ. I love kobe, he's been my favorite player for a long time but you're jaded by the way he blows your back out if you don't think he's also to blame in this.

 

[2Quik4UHoes]

So you ignore half my post talking about the contract? Ok hypocrite. If you take a minute to stop guzzling Kobe's jizz you'll see that contract was the nail in the coffin and I refuse to blame anyone but kobe. For being such a "psychotically hard worker" he was very quick to sign that deal knowing damn well it wouldn't give them enough cap room to sign the right players to get that next chip that he's been working his career to tie MJ. I love kobe, he's been my favorite player for a long time but you're jaded by the way he blows your back out if you don't think he's also to blame in this.

How was that the nail in the coffin? It only stopped us from signing two max players but we could still sign one so why couldn't our stellar front office convince one of those guys to sign? How bout you stop coming up with gay analogies about Kobe and tell me how the contract was so detrimental that not one player wanted to take the max, especially considering that 2 seasons later we'd have space for another max player. Maybe, superstar players understand that the Lakers aren't the Lakers right now and that's not because of a 2 year deal that didn't at all prevent us from making other impactful signings. Stop letting this bum ass front office off the hook with your faggit fantasies about Kobe.

I'm sure you can't do that so you just keep conjuring up more homoerotic posts involving Kobe in order to make your point you bytchmade faggit.

 

[Bilz]

It sounds like he was also saying spurs are a better organization. He called them first class and suggested the lakers are disfunctional.

Because he thinks the reason that Kobe isn't winning more championships is because they have surrounded him with Smush Parkers his whole career. It's the typical bottom of the barrel Kobestan thinking.

He's incapable of blaming Kobe for eating up so much of that cap space that had been earmarked for this free agency period. Where would the Spurs be if Duncan had done the same? Expecting a star to come play second fiddle to an old gimp on some gutted team with no other talent is ridiculous. But sure, lets just say theyre staying away because they don't want to be around Jim Buss.

 

[boskey]

Can't put all the blame on Kobe. They don't even have a coach now and their last 2 were abject failures. That's gotta be a huge issue...

 

[cleanface coney]

Let's not underestimate Kobe's androgynous stan base as well.

my nikka dont let these clowns represent nikkas who been fukking with Kobe

nikkas who been fukking with the Lakers know.... the front office+not having any type of athleticism of the perimeter.... has been the problem for the last 3-4 years

 

[gho3st]

Because he thinks the reason that Kobe isn't winning more championships is because they have surrounded him with Smush Parkers his whole career. It's the typical bottom of the barrel Kobestan thinking.

He's incapable of blaming Kobe for eating up so much of that cap space that had been earmarked for this free agency period. Where would the Spurs be if Duncan had done the same? Expecting a star to come play second fiddle to an old gimp on some gutted team with no other talent is ridiculous. But sure, lets just say theyre staying away because they don't want to be around Jim Buss.

LOOK AT @ goatpoacher YALL....whats the point of posting under an alias if you are going to post the same shyt??

 

[Bilz]

LOOK AT @ goatpoacher YALL....whats the point of posting under an alias if you are going to post the same shyt??

Ask yourself the same question, Swagnificent.