Is Jokic right now better than Peak KD and Steph?
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How did he separate from Greek? Joel i understand but Greek?
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As a player? Not to me, and this is my problem with ringz culture. It's fukking stupid. Having a ring doesn't necessarily make someone a much better player. It throws logic and reason out the window for hot takes.
By that logic Embid isn't on Giannis or Curry's level which we all know to be bullshyt
Bogut, stephs MCL Sprain, iguodala’s back spasms, draymond’s suspension, you name itAre you stupid lol.. no one holds that 2019 Finals against Steph cause he had injured dudes, but he was out there yelling "I'm back!!" in the playoffs and Warriors fans on some:
"Boguts injury was the reason we lost a 3-1 lead"
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The bubble was fraudulent
He lost them to prime fukking Shaq. Shaq at his peak pretty much tops everyone in basketball history.
Meanwhile Curry was losing MVPs to Iggy and Durant.
You say this like Steph’s finals performances weren’t indisputably better than Kobe’s
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That Kobe game 7 was fukking horrific against Boston but no on talks about that
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yes, this is the greatest peak I've ever seen from a basketball player
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I'm taking peak Steph and peak KD because they both were winning and putting up all-time performances.
Jokic hasn't won at the same level as they've (KD and Steph) done in the past. We have yet to see if the Nuggets will ever go on a run of dominance as Steph's and KD's Warriors or even KD's (short-lived) OKC Thunder.
At the moment the Nuggets aren't even the best team in the West and could slide down to 4th or 5th by season's end.
As someone else said we're in what's supposed to be “Jokic's era” meaning the expectation (by the media in particular) is that he snags at least two or three more titles. All the MVPs that his stans keep slobbering over means nothing if he can't extend his trophy collection.
Jokic hasn't won at the same level as they've (KD and Steph) done in the past. We have yet to see if the Nuggets will ever go on a run of dominance as Steph's and KD's Warriors or even KD's (short-lived) OKC Thunder.
At the moment the Nuggets aren't even the best team in the West and could slide down to 4th or 5th by season's end.
As someone else said we're in what's supposed to be “Jokic's era” meaning the expectation (by the media in particular) is that he snags at least two or three more titles. All the MVPs that his stans keep slobbering over means nothing if he can't extend his trophy collection.
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MooseMouthMthafuga
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He's more impactful than KD imo.Final 2 mins of a highly contested game 7 in the NBA Finals, I'd take him in the clutch over Steph.I think it was James Worthy who said "If I needed someone to hit a game winning shot, I'd pick Michael Jordan.If I needed someone to hit a shot to save my life, I'd pick Larry Bird" to me, Jokic is the Bird to KD & Steph's Michael Jordan in that statement.I trust him more than KD & Steph.
Steph stans stay with excuses lol.. it's crazyBogut, stephs MCL Sprain, iguodala’s back spasms, draymond’s suspension, you name it
Kobe's playoff TS% is like 50%. that's putrid for any era of ballThat Kobe game 7 was fukking horrific against Boston but no on talks about that
says the guy who stans a man that had to fake contemplating retirement because he got swept by another superstar
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?????????? KD had to join a 72 win team to get title. What do you mean Jokic hasn’t won at the same level as KD? He didn’t join the Celtics to get a win he beat them instead
I still don’t think he’s better than peak KD but saying Jokic hasn’t won at the same level as KD when KD had to join the best team in basketball history to get a title is insane. Mind you still hasn’t won shyt since leaving
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The NBA is easier now than when Durant was in his prime years in the Warriors. This is the weakest defensive era since the 1960's.
Don't forget pre-prime KD took his team to the NBA finals in 2012 and arguably outplayed prime Lebron in that series.
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If Jokic can win another ring or two. I think he passes Steph. I think he is better than KD already.