Id argue Allen was later on that throw.
Made the read in time, but left himself open to be hit
Is Josh Allen the most overrated QB in the league?
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Id argue Allen was later on that throw.
Made the read in time, but left himself open to be hit
Allen had a great 2020 where he genuinely improved across the board, even if you think the praise went overboard he earned a lot of it. Nothing wrong with wanting to see him stack good years though, that's what separates dudes like Mahomes and Russ from the pack.
Heavy_Handz
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Josh Allen is nice.
Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
Why are u talkin bout Lamar’s defense when he was talkin bout offensive production?
dudes be sayin shyt like Lamar can’t throw outside the numbers when his outside threats been 160 pound Hollywood and Willie Snead lmao
Lamar does not have a better O line than the Browns and U can’t ignore all of the QBs he named playin wit top 5-10 WRs, Lamar don’t have the liberty to use his talent around him as a bailout button and that’s big cuz dudes like Mahomes and Allen can get away wit iffy decisions cuz they have elite offensive players around em.
Disingenuous imo to mention his defense and run game, cuz the run game is even predicated off Lamar’s talent
Remy LeBreh
Linconia
Baker slander in here is weird.
Media HATES Baker, da fukk are you talking about. People still pull up stats from the Kitchens season to bury him when that was 2 seasons ago.
Media HATES Baker, da fukk are you talking about. People still pull up stats from the Kitchens season to bury him when that was 2 seasons ago.
Apprentice
RIP Doughboy Roc
And idk why u nikkas are sayin Baker, it is not 2019 nobody thinks Baker is a top ten QB
this thread is all over the place, dudes askin how can Lamar be better than Watson and citing Lamar’s playoff record not realizing Deshaun’s only playoff win was vs a Josh Allen led team where Allen was doin watever he could to make sure his team lose
this thread is all over the place, dudes askin how can Lamar be better than Watson and citing Lamar’s playoff record not realizing Deshaun’s only playoff win was vs a Josh Allen led team where Allen was doin watever he could to make sure his team lose
Remy LeBreh
Linconia
I always say Baker hovers between top 10-15, which is fine, everyone forgets he went to an 0-16 team. Allen is aiight but he's been fooling people since he got on, that big arm is wild inaccurate and he got drafted into a crazy stable situation. People get too gassed up by gaudy passing yards with guys like Allen and use it to slander Tannehill and Baker just for having good rbs and o-lines.
I mentioned it cause every team has its strengths and weaknesses. there's nothing disingenuous at all about what I said
give Mahomes or Russell the defense the ravens have had with Lamar and they probably would've gone undefeated. Each team has been built around their strengths. Mahomes has played without his top 5 talent and won. I don't know about russ. Give Mahomes the O line Lamar had and they probably would've won the super bowl. We can play the "Lamar doesn't have this" "others teams have that" game all day, but once again each each time has it's strengths and weakness and also once again anyone saying Lamar is overrrated is a dumbass cause he's been playing consistently at a high level since he began starting.
JesusFOREVER
Superstar
He showed out during a covid year like a LOT of other players who we will see show their true selves with the crowds back
Lamar is the greatest mobile QB the game has ever seen so he’s going to be heavily scrutinized, some of its justified, a lot if it is race based stereotypes that are debunked by his stats, people are not going to crown him till he wins a super bowl because he plays vastly different than the standard quarterback, it is what it is
Lamar is the greatest mobile QB the game has ever seen so he’s going to be heavily scrutinized, some of its justified, a lot if it is race based stereotypes that are debunked by his stats, people are not going to crown him till he wins a super bowl because he plays vastly different than the standard quarterback, it is what it is
JesusFOREVER
Superstar
I agree with everything you said but that part, the Ravens rushing attack is #1 strictly because of Lamar not the other way around don’t be fooled, he opens up the game so much for his backs uts crazy, theres a reason any rb they put back there immediately produces, they lost like 3 backs before the season and the run game didn’t look like it missed a beat with the corpse of Latavius Murray and Ty’son Smith against Vegas
I agree with it all. People don’t understand though but like you said in your previous post he’s going to be criticized because he is who is
Trot LaRoc
Superstar
He isnt as good as he was last year.....lot of QB stats are kinda just luck. A few tipped passes or dropped balls could easily be an additional 4 or 5 picks
He is going to be a 10 year starter but he is definitely regressing to the mean this year somethin serious
He is going to be a 10 year starter but he is definitely regressing to the mean this year somethin serious
Niether Lamar nor Baker should be anywhere near this thread
Lamar has weaknesses (namely the checkdown/short passing game) but the way he's talked about by media/fans you'd be led to believe he can't even throw the football. Because he doesn't pass for a lot of yards they think he's a bad passer. Passing yards has a stranglehold on people. It means absolutely nothing if it doesn't lead to points and wins. Efficiency>volume, and Lamar has been one of the most efficient passers in the league (particularly in the red zone)
As for Baker, he gets destroyed nationally and on this board. Just cause he's in a lot of commercials doesn't mean people overrate him (I'd argue those commercials bring an added source of scrutiny). Also while he's not in the upper echelon he's nowhere near a bottom tier QB either. He showed his potential as a rookie and really started coming into his own the second half of last year. I can see him shedding that game-manager label soon if he continues to trend upward
Lamar has weaknesses (namely the checkdown/short passing game) but the way he's talked about by media/fans you'd be led to believe he can't even throw the football. Because he doesn't pass for a lot of yards they think he's a bad passer. Passing yards has a stranglehold on people. It means absolutely nothing if it doesn't lead to points and wins. Efficiency>volume, and Lamar has been one of the most efficient passers in the league (particularly in the red zone)
As for Baker, he gets destroyed nationally and on this board. Just cause he's in a lot of commercials doesn't mean people overrate him (I'd argue those commercials bring an added source of scrutiny). Also while he's not in the upper echelon he's nowhere near a bottom tier QB either. He showed his potential as a rookie and really started coming into his own the second half of last year. I can see him shedding that game-manager label soon if he continues to trend upward
Both are very good qbs that have potentially fatal flaws in their game that would inhibit them from reaching the next level.
I will say this, I think Josh Allen has a better chance of overcoming any issues that he may have
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The media (and NFL) sees the writing on the wall and I been saying this for the last 7 years. The best young QBs that been matriculating to the league are black. They want a new group of young great white hopes at the QB position. They are thankful these rule changes have allowed all these aging white star QBs to play into their late 30s and early 40s to hold down the fort down before the inevitable darkening of the QB position.
