Is Kanye the father of this era of "softness"?

[Yakno1]

You must be kidding, right? Alright maybe in terms of sales as an individual artist and overall, "star appeal" but in terms of impact Pharrell and Chad changed the whole eras sound for a good few years.

But there's no doubt in my mind that there'd be no Kanye without a Pharrell. He was that, "normal" guy before anyone. Then it was Kanye, Lupe, Charles Hamilton and finally we're at J.Cole. Cole is the weakest out of all of them and Lupe's on crack.

Sales, star appeal Pharell was no where near Kanye. That speaks to his impact, but yes he did influence a style with production but even that style(sound) was not as influential meaning it did not connect to a audience to a point where he would be considered some sort of trendsetter; He wasn't that "normal" guy before anyone; he had a run that was built off trendy production

 

[How Sway?]

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Kanye is far from soft, he does shyt these soft nikkas wish they could do, you think Waffle, Big Sean and the rest of these ph balance cats wouldve shytted on Taylor swift moment, or shyt on the president?

Kanye should be a honarary member of A.B.N Z-RO AND TRAE, never met a soft person half of white america hate.

Drake would get on snl and sing lullabyes, what did Yeezus do?

Breh, people hate to admit it but ye is really the realest after pac. The nikka was damn near bout to get lynched after what he did to Taylor Swift.

You must be kidding, right? Alright maybe in terms of sales and overall, "star appeal" but in terms of impact Pharrell and Chad changed the whole eras sound for a good few years.

But there's no doubt in my mind that there'd be no Kanye without a Pharrell. He was that, "normal" guy before anyone. Then it was Kanye, Lupe, Charles Hamilton and finally we're at J.Cole. Cole is the weakest out of all of them and Lupe's on crack.

yeah but there were always "normal" dudes in hip hop. But they were'nt the norm. None had the impact that ye had, to the point where it caused a MAJOR shift in the industry...

 

[ROFL_GUY]

Let's be honest here brehs Pharrell started everything. Thing with Pharrell is he's actually likeable and hugely talented without reminding us constantly.

whats cazy is pharrell has DOMINATED 2013...

and find it funny that pharell/daft punk collabs ruled the airwaves in 2013


and kanye/daft punk collabs went strait to the and no even heard them shyts

 

[How Sway?]

I always said that the combination of Wayne 07-08 and Graduation going into 808's n Heartbreak was the Blueprint for this era of rappers.

you gotta give gucci mane and tpain credit though. People underestimate their impact on the game.

Take someone like Future. He music basically a combo between 808's Ye, Tpain and gucci....

 

[vaudevillevillain]

why are people so focused on who seems "soft"

nikkas living vicariously through all these so called 'hard' rappers, anyone can come on the scene and fool a whole society for a couple dollars. you got labels creating rappers now, and that aint even the tip of the iceberg. this is why i keep stressing to take a rapper's skills into account more than anything else. but you don't hear me doe

 

[BrothaZay]

Yes

 

[Ultimate Warrior]

Breh, people hate to admit it but ye is really the realest after pac. The nikka was damn near bout to get lynched after what he did to Taylor Swift.

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Trust me I know, the George Bush thing, the expression on Mike Myers face was priceless, everybody thought it, but didnt have the nuts to say it, but this nikka let it be known and everybody across the world damn near saw it, and that was way bigger than the taylor swift thing.

2yrs later His mom dies, he became a even bigger monster Hahhhn

 

[ROFL_GUY]

**snorts 32seconds***

Trust me I know, the George Bush thing, the expression on Mike Myers face was priceless, everybody thought it, but didnt have the nuts to say it, but this nikka let it be known and everybody across the world damn near saw it, and that was way bigger than the taylor swift thing.

2yrs later His mom dies, he became a even bigger monster Hahhhn

 

[CELL]

Sales, star appeal Pharell was no where near Kanye. That speaks to his impact, but yes he did influence a style with production but even that style(sound) was not as influential meaning it did not connect to a audience to a point where he would be considered some sort of trendsetter; He wasn't that "normal" guy before anyone; he had a run that was built off trendy production

OK if you're talking individual sales then whatever but Pharrell has produced platinum on platinum albums and singles that ECLIPSE Kanye. His impact was felt around the industry and that was clear in the fact that The Neptunes charged out their asses for beats.

Oh and not to sound like a fukking hippie or anything but Pharrell produces on EMOTION alone, people resonate with him as an artist. Dudes like OF and even Drake have directly said that the Neptunes are a huge influence on their style. I'll hold my hands up and say I STAN the hell out of Pharrell. Dude had me begging my parents for that Bathing Ape and BBC
They're both trendsetters; for you to discredit one for the other is wrong. Plus let's not forget the fact that one now has a hugely successful clothing brand, Pharrell collaborated with Daft Punk first AND the fact that Pharrell was around for a decade (behind the scenes) before Kanye was known around the industry.

You're fighting a losing war here because Pharrell was around before Kanye doing the normal guy thing before him

Everything after that is subjective.

 

[Yakno1]

Everything after that is subjective.

Bottom line, do you feel Pharell is the father of this new era of mainstream rap?

 

[CELL]

Bottom line, do you feel Pharell is the father of this new era of mainstream rap?

Nah but he's the father of these, "normal" simp artists.

The father of mainstream rap is Jay-Z HANDS DOWN. He did everything first, let's not fukk about.

 

[How Sway?]

Nah but he's the father of these, "normal" simp artists.

The father of mainstream rap is Jay-Z HANDS DOWN. He did everything first, let's not fukk about.

You obviously do not realize how many artists jay z copied off of.

 

[CELL]

You obviously do not realize how many artists jay z copied off of.

Nah he's a dikk riding fakkit that loves the attention but as a mainstream rapper he's caking the most. As a MAINSTREAM rapper that should be your only goal.

Edit: And by first I mean in terms of selling yourself as a brand first and foremost. But let's not go off topic with this.

 

[Yakno1]

You obviously do not realize how many artists jay z copied off of.

 

[MINT]

maybe lol