Pretty much. Its for the best, though. Regular people thrive in today's market with the ones that make good music. Super thugs can't adapt to technology.
Is Kanye the father of this era of "softness"?
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Pretty much. Its for the best, though. Regular people thrive in today's market with the ones that make good music. Super thugs can't adapt to technology.
Tommy Knocks
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You call it soft, I call it black people deciding to be themselves again, past the jewish promotion of the hyper masculine aggressive black male.
For once a nikka can just say what's on his mind without everyone calling him soft a la a regular joe. We're going back to our roots, you think nikkas cared about soft when they were doing the electric slide wearing butterfly colors? nikkas didn't care about upholding some fake status, they just did what they felt like. Someone like Michael Jackson would have had a hard time in the mid 00s, wearing a white glove and sounding fem. Back then expression was embraced. We lost that during the 90s when labels were only accepting the thug image (which in turn effected the culture). Now with the internet we can bypass what the media wants us to be perceived as and just do you. Lil B is a good testament of that. Notice how much he's embraced than an underground trap nikka. Lil B tours global. People are infatuated with those not afraid of being themselves.
For once a nikka can just say what's on his mind without everyone calling him soft a la a regular joe. We're going back to our roots, you think nikkas cared about soft when they were doing the electric slide wearing butterfly colors? nikkas didn't care about upholding some fake status, they just did what they felt like. Someone like Michael Jackson would have had a hard time in the mid 00s, wearing a white glove and sounding fem. Back then expression was embraced. We lost that during the 90s when labels were only accepting the thug image (which in turn effected the culture). Now with the internet we can bypass what the media wants us to be perceived as and just do you. Lil B is a good testament of that. Notice how much he's embraced than an underground trap nikka. Lil B tours global. People are infatuated with those not afraid of being themselves.
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OG Talk
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Pretty much...
Rappers were always the soft n1ggas in the hood... The type of dudes that the hustlers, gangsters and athletes would bully and clown...Kanye and Drake just allowed them to come out of the closet with their true personalities and stop postering behind a false image...It's less entertaining to me now but honestly probably more authentic..
About time. Black folk need to stop with the distorted image that you have to be street to be relevant.
Yep. Bla
Pharrell was like Jesus, Kanye wrote the Bible.
Kanye had the biggest individual impacty. He wasn't a side character. A "cool" dude that made dope beats and hooks. He sold albums, singles and tours as a mainstream giant. He wasn't an OutKast he was at the centre of the culture.
P and Lupe influenced too.
Kanye had the biggest individual impacty. He wasn't a side character. A "cool" dude that made dope beats and hooks. He sold albums, singles and tours as a mainstream giant. He wasn't an OutKast he was at the centre of the culture.
P and Lupe influenced too.
MikeBrownsJob
Seattle fan since 2013 *deal with it slime*
Let's be honest here brehs Pharrell started everything. Thing with Pharrell is he's actually likeable and hugely talented without reminding us constantly.
Exactly NERD came out and made the music they wanted to make from jump. Kanye was making good music but I always knew he would end up a white male in the end.
Some people don't recognize that Hip Hop was created to express life and to get out of trouble in the hood. Not to exploit the struggle and be poverty pimps. These old rappers are the same ones that shytted on Public Enemy and changed history to favor them.
Mike Tyson "20 Years Ago 90% Rappers Were Legit Tough Guys"
"They had either been shot or shot someone. They were either stick up kids, dealers or hustlers. Nowadays they all look and act like boy bands. They look like rapping NSyncs. The guys that did music used to be the tough guys in the neighborhood" - Mike Tyson
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8997305
don't forget it's classes to this structure in America; guys that grew up in the inner city and made it to rap not all was angling at a gangster, they were recalling their experience....a clown like rick ross just fabricates but before him....it was real legit street dudes
Tommy Knocks
retired
yea but that wasnt the beginning of hiphop. that was AFTER the labels picked it up and started shaping the image. Prior to that you had Run DMC, KRS1, Rahkim, Kool G Rap. It was about hyping the crowd, and then battles. Then around the time NWA came in, boom it got 'hard'. Everyone wanted to be a bad ass, the fatherless got a voice to express their anger and how they shooting black men cause they resemble their dads (ok they didnt say that but you get my drift).
Mike Tyson "20 Years Ago 90% Rappers Were Legit Tough Guys"
"They had either been shot or shot someone. They were either stick up kids, dealers or hustlers. Nowadays they all look and act like boy bands. They a blook like rapping NSyncs. The guys that did music used to be the tough guys in the neighborhood" - Mike Tyson
http://espn.go.com/espnradio/grantland/player?id=8997305
don't forget it's classes to this structure in America; guys that grew up in the inner city and made it to rap not all was angling at a gangster, they were recalling their experience....a clown like rick ross just fabricates but before him....it was real legit street dudes
With gentrification and more blacks moving out of crack ridden hoods, you see more people on the 'Black Hippy' tip.
these nikkas in the 90s woulda never been smiling like this in LA. Now they're finally living a good life. Black people can smile and have a good life too, we're not forever cursed with 'hard'ship.
People are finally getting the truth. There was dope rap prior to gangsta rap. The 30-40 year old generation gave in to the thug shyt and believed that Hip Hop is all about negativity.
jilla82
Veteran
You may have reality mixed up w/ image.
Eric B & Rakim and all those cats were street dudes, you just wouldnt know it because at that point it wasnt considered cool to push that image in your face.
But I agree w/ some of your other points though.
I think a lot of these cats on this forum play up black people having it hard a little too much. There are a lot of middle class etc... cats that arent struggling.
Tommy Knocks
retired
I agree with all the above.
