How can you call them trash when they were so heavily sought after by Rocky?
They had elements of a cool sound, but it wasn't complete. And maybe it was Rocky's way of getting at Clams Casino.
It should be obvious that while neither Mondre or Squadda have the ceiling of Rocky, their music was what lead the way for Rocky. Their mixtapes, all their work, it created the lane and style that Rocky would eventually take up. Spaceghostpurrp started trends with his music. Lil B started trends. MAz started trends. Rocky relied on these contributions from his contemporaries to blow up.
Again, I agree with you. I don't think we're disagreeing here. I'm just saying that all those trends were unrefined until Rocky and his team put their input into it. With the exception of Lil B, their stuff was just too lo-fi and frankly, not very good. Some interesting ideas with bad execution, weak themes and horrible voices.
Rocky took those ideas, added more thematic weight and executed them REALLY WELL. You can't hate him for doing that.
At the end of the day, execution is what separates the men from the boys.
In retrospect, its interesting that out of the entire group of emerging internet rappers in 2007-2012, the least creative one became the most successful aside from maybe Odd Future.
Huh? How do you explain Rocky blowing up literally overnight? If everyone was doing what Rocky did before Rocky did it, we wouldn't have heard about Rocky. The fact of the matter is that Rocky took a very unknown and utterly strange sound and made it work.
The bigger part that people miss about Rocky is that his sound is not just cloud rap. And it's not just SpaceGhostPurrp shyt either. What makes Live.Love.ASAP so incredible is that it's a mix of all major coasts in rap (even the West Coast and the Midwest - people forget about that), centered in an East Coast perspective. And somehow, Rocky and his people made all these clashing styles work and sound seamless. That shyt is incredible.
There is no album in the history of rap that has attempted what Live.Love.ASAP did and pulled it off.
The only person I can say had the idea to rep all coasts is Lil B. Lil B jumps on anything. The rest weren't doing that at all. And like I said with Lil B, most of his catalogue has a satirical bent. Which is completely different from Rocky.
Keep hating on B, MAz and SGP though.
Hating? what are you talking about? Lil B is my favorite rapper of the new school, period. I literally said "I love Lil B" in previous posts.
Rocky literally took a sound that MAz & B had been doing for years and ran with it, picked up an increasingly gimmicky southern cultural revival, and disguised weak bars with decent flows, features, and production.
Weak bars? Bruh, ASAP Rocky is one of the best writers of the new school, period. He's weak compared to what I grew up on but he writes better rap than Kendrick and J Cole. Straight up. You're gonna go "oh you don't know shyt if you think Rocky's better than Kendrick". My dude, I'm not fooled by hype. Verse for verse, Rocky has better songwriting and more poetic lines than Kendrick. And that's what matters at the end of the day. Your whole generation is built on weak bars, but you wanna diss Rocky for it? I find that disingenuous.
And only a 'decent' flow? Bruh, Rocky has the BEST flow of the new school, period. That's a huge part of what made people flip the fukk out. His rap delivery is fantastic. It's super smooth and super confident at the same time.
Yams and Rocky saw the importance of all the aforementioned artists, yet the fans want to act like they were all afterthoughts for ASAP.
With the exception of Lil B (because Lil B is undeniably dope), the rest have become afterthoughts because they're not dope enough. It's no one's fault but their own.
In fact, I became a way bigger Lil B fan when I figured out that Rocky took a huge part of his inspiration from the Based Lord. I've been a proud member of Taskforce since.
Most fans of Rocky respect the hell out of Lil B.