Is LiveLoveA$AP a classic?

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classic...no
good...hell yeah
still gets play

hearing palace for 1st time wondering who the hell was asap rocky was dope
 

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that were better or had bigger buzz that year?

Match or better:

Oneirology
Bronson's albums
Return of 4Eva
Section 80
Danny Brown's XXX

totally disagree. Live.Love.ASAP is miles ahead of those albums, for my personal tastes. My taste is not everyone's taste. On a more objective level, I think Live.Love.ASAP was doing more innovative shyt for the reasons already outlined in this thread. XXX was also unique and pushing boundaries, so I respect it even though it's not for me.

Bigger Buzz?

Watch the Throne
Section 80
Take Care

yeah. But they all came from established artists with established fanbases. Section80 got so much hype because Kendrick was already signed and Interscope was pushing the mixtape heavy.

Rocky came out nowhere. Very different kind of buzz. But yes, overall... I can say that more people paid attention to Section80 than LiveLoveASAP
 

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totally disagree. Live.Love.ASAP is miles ahead of those albums, for my personal tastes. My taste is not everyone's taste. On a more objective level, I think Live.Love.ASAP was doing more innovative shyt for the reasons already outlined in this thread. XXX was also unique and pushing boundaries, so I respect it even though it's not for me.

yeah, it's all opinion. I could never hate on yours just because it's different.

Bigger Buzz?



yeah. But they all came from established artists with established fanbases. Section80 got so much hype because Kendrick was already signed.

Rocky came out nowhere. Very different kind of buzz. But yes, overall... I can say that more people paid attention to Section80 than LiveLoveASAP

yep. in that bracket/subgenre, it got overshadowed.... but not by much. Rocky came out of nowhere and even had a white chick with gold fronts as a centerpiece.

Kendrick had been bubbling since Michael Jordan dropped and he was piggybacking off Schoolboy Q and guest starring in Ab-Soul's early videos.
 
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Let me guess... you're a '93 kid. Alright. I'm a decade older than you. I know good writing when I see it. I'm not saying Rocky is a superb writer. I never said that. But I think he writes better hip hop songs than Kendrick.

If you care to discuss this further, let me ask this: Which verse do you consider to be a strong Kendrick verse? We can compare them.
I can name a bunch of random kendrick verses that shyt all over Asap Rocky's writing, but they have two different subject matter, but if were to compare the two Kendrick had a better verse on fukking problems and fukking problems. Asap Rocky doesn't utilize double entendres, alliteration, intricate rhyme schemes laden with incredible multis. The one thing I'll give Asap Rocky over kendrick is he has a smoother delivery, but he isn't better in the other aspects of rapping
 

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http://www.dasswassup.com/blog-2/buzz-aap-rocky-purebakingsoda/

Its in English after the French version, tells you all you need to know.

Yooo that is a superb article! Props for posting. I've always wanted to know what went on behind the scenes of making Rocky pop.

The more chilling part of that article talks about the danger of blog rap and how people don't question blogs. They just run with whatever a bunch of blogs have posted. I absolutely agree. This is something that more hip hop fans need to be wary of. Right now, hip hop has turned into a game of "who can dikkride fastest?" It's crazy. And there's very little quality involved. Also, you don't want hipsters running this rap shyt. Their tastes are terrible. They're wiggers 2.0.
 

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I can name a bunch of random kendrick verses that shyt all over Asap Rocky's writing, but they have two different subject matter, but if were to compare the two Kendrick had a better verse on fukking problems and fukking problems.

That song is borderline trash. I never play it. I'm at a club and then someone plays it. Both of them nikkas had trash verses on there.

Asap Rocky doesn't utilize double entendres, alliteration, intricate rhyme schemes laden with incredible multis.

fukk all that.

That's not what makes good songwriting. The greatest rappers of all time (for the most part) weren't wasting their time on dumb, irrelevant technical shyt. They were just incredibly poetic and had imaginative 'darts'. If they happened to use a double entendre, cool. Or alliteration or a really cool series of multis, cool. But that was never the focus.

The real question is: who is more poetic? Rocky or Kendrick? I think Rocky is. But I'm willing to see what you consider to be Kendrick's most poetic shyt.

These other nikkas so-so, they open off my mojo
Spanish Sophie with a half a kilo by her cho-cho
Blow it out your culo, who got dough on the smoke though
My partner had cinco now we blowin' on that ocho
Bozos love my rose gold, purple got me slow-mo
Stuntin' like I'm Dorothy but my rubies in my gold though
What you think this four for, these nikkas must be loco
Steppin' on these bricks and for your fix so call me Toto

That shyt's poetic. It's not great poetry by a long shot. But it works. and most importantly, Rocky delivered them fantastically on the beat. Because if it doesn't sound good, what's the point?

His verse on Palace is poetic, too.

The one thing I'll give Asap Rocky over kendrick is he has a smoother delivery

way smoother, and far more confident. Blows Kendrick out the water in the delivery department.
 
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That song is borderline trash. I never play it. I'm at a club and then someone plays it. Both of them nikkas had trash verses on there.



fukk all that.

That's not what makes good songwriting. The greatest rappers of all time (for the most part) weren't wasting their time on dumb, irrelevant technical shyt. They were just incredibly poetic and had imaginative 'darts'. If they happened to use a double entendre, cool. Or alliteration or a really cool series of multis, cool. But that was never the focus.

The real question is: who is more poetic? Rocky or Kendrick? I think Rocky is. But I'm willing to see what you consider to be Kendrick's most poetic shyt.

These other nikkas so-so, they open off my mojo
Spanish Sophie with a half a kilo by her cho-cho
Blow it out your culo, who got dough on the smoke though
My partner had cinco now we blowin' on that ocho
Bozos love my rose gold, purple got me slow-mo
Stuntin' like I'm Dorothy but my rubies in my gold though
What you think this four for, these nikkas must be loco
Steppin' on these bricks and for your fix so call me Toto

That shyt's poetic. It's not great poetry by a long shot. But it works. and most importantly, Rocky delivered them fantastically on the beat. Because if it doesn't sound good, what's the point?

His verse on Palace is poetic, too.



way smoother, and far more confident. Blows Kendrick out the water in the delivery department.
But bar wise Rocky is weak and maybe because I actually know people that know Rocky from Harlem is why I don't really rock with him as much as KDOT because most of the shyt he spits isn't genuine I know the real Asap Mob and they not about that life, so there bars don't come off natural or poetic imo, but to Rocky's credit he still makes good songs, just isn't impressive as an mc like Kdot is.
 
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