Is NINTENDO responsible for dumbing down the gaming industry???

[Scustin Bieburr]

Awful take.

Nintendo games have a low barrier to entry but a high skill ceiling. Smash Bros is something an average 6 year old could learn how to play. That 6 year old is getting smoked by a 19 year old that understands the metagame and how to use things like wave dashing.

Nintendo games are also less likely to be loaded with micro transactions and glitches. When Nintendo announces a game, that shyt usually is already mostly done in the development cycle.

All this coming from a man who has been on the fence about a switch. I've owned mostly non Nintendo consoles but paying over 50 dollars for a game and getting the value of 20 dollars is bullshyt. I'm only NOW getting resident evil 4 remake since the price was slashed on a sale. I'm not trying to spend half a grocery bill on some shyt that isn't finished.

If we're looking at the culprit for dumbed down games, I blame epic and Rockstar. Gta 5 has been out for 10 YEARS and people are still playing it online and spending loads of cash each month. Fortnite been out for over 5 years and it's been raking in BILLIONS each year. What's the point in making a game with deep systems and engaging story when you could make a fortnite or call of duty clone and eat for seemingly forever.

 

[Deltron]

Awful take.

Nintendo games have a low barrier to entry but a high skill ceiling. Smash Bros is something an average 6 year old could learn how to play. That 6 year old is getting smoked by a 19 year old that understands the metagame and how to use things like wave dashing.

or pokemon

the metagame is insanely deep.

kids can play it for the RPG and fun battles w/ friends...but try to pull that shyt with the big boys, you gon get wasted

 

[Knicksman20]

Cool, but people not into video games, playing video games, didn't start with the Wii. It started with the PS2, for the reasons I said.

I got old ass EGM, Gamefan, Gamer's Republic, Game Pro, etc. magazines from back then in storage. Video games hit mainstream due to the push from Sony.

Fred.

He might be too young to really understand how big that was back then. Our age group knows this & it's one of the major reasons Sega had to leave the console business

 

[RaspberryFitted]

PS2 actually won over casuals, at the time it was the cheapest DVD player on the market.

So audio/visual/tech nerds or just people that wanted a nice little set up for their TV, got a PS2 out of necessity. That acted as a gateway into gaming.

Fred.

also could be used as a PC through Linuix

 

[Deltron]

also could be used as a PC through Linuix

is that how saddam controlled the missles

 

[The Intergalactic Koala]

No idea I haven't owned a Nintendo since the wii

Team sony here

And this is the end of the thread

Nintendo was technically hardcore during the 80s to the early 2000s, for every Mario there was a Killer Instinct. For every Zelda, there was Chrono Trigger. Nintendo didn't hit it's true casual peak the moment the Wii dropped and holy shyt, it was the end of the era for gaming to be a safe haven for ones that been there since day one, as old heads and your sister Judy can play shyt like this:



Hence, the world got introduced to shovelware and to this very day, Nintendo have folks each out of garbage pails with the seal of approval.

 

[Deltron]

And this is the end of the thread

Nintendo was technically hardcore during the 80s to the early 2000s, for every Mario there was a Killer Instinct. For every Zelda, there was Chrono Trigger. Nintendo didn't hit it's true casual peak the moment the Wii dropped and holy shyt, it was the end of the era for gaming to be a safe haven for ones that been there since day one, as old heads and your sister Judy can play shyt like this:



Hence, the world got introduced to shovelware and to this very day, Nintendo have folks each out of garbage pails with the seal of approval.

shovelware been around since the atari days

 

[Let A Fro Be A Fro]

How can you think Nintendo dumbed down games in the era of mobile/Facebook games?

 

[Da King]

Here come all the gaming nerds

 

[The_Sheff]

Nintendo at least hs a variety of games. For a while you couldn't find a major release on Xbox that didn't involve a gun.

Do they even support local multi-player anymore on PS5 or Xbox?

 

[Jazzy B.]

You're not meant to be gaming heavy anyway after 25 unless you're getting paid

 

[ReturnOfJudah]

or course

 

[Ohene]

ive always seen their games as childish/kiddish
ill say that much
sony gang since ps2

 

[Address_Unknown]

Spoiler: Unfocused and unedited rant incoming

Depends on what you consider "Dumbing" down of the industry.
The industry is leaning towards making mass profit providing pay to win and live service systems in which they create games that they can regularly add new 'content' and charge the player for it.

Cac CEOS like Kotick and the fakkit that was on that Engine (Think it was VALVE) who's name I forgot are steadily pushing games towards hyper monetization where they'd want to be able to charge you for cutscenes and to reload your gun with actual money.
Yes, these are things those b*stards have declared will make gaming "better", while studios are now currently trying their best to re-hash old games into re-releases and remakes since everyone is afraid of trying something new and having it fail and lose money.

Nintendo is doing what Nintendo does, which is offer their Ip's in ways they feel their audience SHOULD play them rather than how THEY (the audience) would like, while offering quirky gimmicks centred around whatever the main controller/peripheral is caoable of in the same vein of fun an quality that the die hards have enjoyed for decades and the casuals are keen to pick up on.

If it's one thing I can commend them for is not being too heavy on microtransactions despite the fact that they refuse to sell their games at discounted prices at any time ever. Like why the fukk am I paying for Super Mario 3 on my Switch at 50 dollars when it released 2 decades ago?

If anyone 'dumbed down' gaming, it's the companies that went after the mobile market since they realize that a large chunk of the Asian videogame market prefer portable games they can play on their cellphones that they can get addicted to, similar to slot machines and started pumping that same mentality into current day games (Gacha games I think they're called) where there is always some sort of wall or barrier between you and completing your goal that requires you to either spend an exorbiant amount of time or a miniscule but predatory fee to overcome and progress.

Not much of a Nintendo fan since they treat their fanbase like absolute shyte, but they aren't to blame since they are mostly the exception when it comes to videogame practicies that harm the culture of gaming. I mean, look at the Kinect and the Eye shyt for both Playstation and Microsoft. The casual market is something all companies need to capture in order to bolster revenue since you can only do so much with established titles not named Skyrim/GTA

 

[Umoja]

No.

What the fukk are you talking about?