Is Reasonable Doubt the consensus GOAT hip hop album?

[Lucky_Lefty]

I'm having a real hard time imagining AZ getting more burn than Jay. Like a REAL hard time. Seems you may be semi Nas stanning with the AZ/Cuban Link inclusion.


And I'm speaking strictly for New York, the most important place in hip hop in 1996. What a guy below the mason Dixon played is of little importance to me. You guys weren't playing Illmatic rabidly either.

Nope but we knew about it and why? Cause you Yanks who escaped NYC and moved here was constantly trying to put us on to it. I lived outside of Philly in 95 so I had grown to appreciate east coast hip hop. Nas didn't get really popular down here until IWW (If I Ruled the World, Street Dreams remix). But I do remember going to mom and pop and chain record stores looking for that first Kast album and all the salesman pushing this new kid who will be greater than Ra (that was a consensus opinion from ALL of them). In 96 whatever was hot to NYC was of little importance to us either. We just played shyt from everywhere, region didn't matter. We weren't as close minded as you all up top.

 

[Big Mel]

Nope but we knew about it and why? Cause you Yanks who escaped NYC and moved here was constantly trying to put us on to it. I lived outside of Philly in 95 so I had grown to appreciate east coast hip hop. Nas didn't get really popular down here until IWW (If I Ruled the World, Street Dreams remix). But I do remember going to mom and pop and chain record stores looking for that first Kast album and all the salesman pushing this new kid who will be greater than Ra (that was a consensus opinion from ALL of them). In 96 whatever was hot to NYC was of little importance to us either. We just played shyt from everywhere, region didn't matter. We weren't as close minded as you all up top.

Yanks? what are you a fukkin' hillbilly? NYC isn't close minded at all. It's just a place that happened to be making the best rap music for a really long time. We played all the Crucial Conflicts, Goodie Mobs, Dogg Pounds, Geto Boys & Too Shorts too. Did you guys play Diamond D? Beatnuts? Kurious? Masta Ace Inc?

 

[Lucky_Lefty]

Yanks? what are you a fukkin' hillbilly? NYC isn't close minded at all. It's just a place that happened to be making the best rap music for a really long time. We played all the Crucial Conflicts, Goodie Mobs, Dogg Pounds, Geto Boys & Too Shorts too. Did you guys play Diamond D? Beatnuts? Kurious? Masta Ace Inc?

By 96, a line was drawn in the sand due to the EC/WC thing. I was one of the few cats in my crew who was BIG >>>> Pac....why play them when y'all barely played them yourselves? I did fukk with Masta Ace tho. Mid 90s was a weird time down south. We still had our own thing going but it was getting phased out for more non booty bass stuff and cats started emulating the west coast stuff more to the respect between the 2 and shared disdain for almighty east coast who may have played our stuff but didn't respect us enough to let our artist perform up there and show love.

 

[Doin2Much Williams]

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[Big Mel]

@Lucky_Lefty


those lines were imaginary. And so, no, you didn't play Diamond D, a guy who made one of the GOAT albums. So, choose your words more carefully when you cast blanket statements as to what regions were listening to what.


Ever heard a Fesu album? I own 2. How about Poison Clan...You seem to be from Miami, no? Shy D? What about Raheem The Vigilante? Remember that stank lookin' bytch Choice from rap-a-lot who dissed all the popular gangsta rappers? What about all those wack artists DJ Quik did records on that people on the west coast pretend are classics? Remember those Bay Area dudes Capital Tax that had that album 'The Swole Package'?


we listened to EVERYTHING, my dude.

 

[Dominic Brehetto]

lets talk about the fact that when pac and big were alive jay was a nobody. if jay or rd is your goat you cant speak on hip hop.

 

[AnotherRoute]

fukk no

jay z fooled people into believing that shyt is a classic. Everybody that was around when it dropped told me nobody even thought of anything when it came out it. Jay z's ass kept repeating how its a classic and some people believed him

 

[Revolutionary]

is this a joke ?

 

[mr.africa]

lets talk about the fact that when pac and big were alive jay was a nobody. if jay or rd is your goat you cant speak on hip hop.

bluntly put, but correct statement

first half of the album is flames though

 

[Awesome Wells]

RD is definitely a classic.

But for those who were around back then, if you lived in NYC at the time, you remember that you had most of the album way before it dropped because Stretch was playing cuts every Thursday for a minute. The thing with it back then was, the joints went from amazing to average. Hov had a lot of so so shyt on there. It's easily one of his best albums, if not the best, but not anywhere close to a GOAT Hip Hop joint.

 

[CanaryWarf]

Not even Jays best album.

Vol 2 > RD > BP

 

[Homeboy Runny-Ray]

And as a southerner, not too many of us gave a fukk about Jay-Z. We fukked with purple tape, AZ, ATLiens, etc much more. You had your wanna be different nikkas who bumped it (even I was a fan of Can't Knock the Hustle) but for some to claim it was this universally loved album is completely false. Foxy's "Ill NaNa" got more burn/love than RD if we gonna keep it all the way funky. As I've said before, RD was what Eightball & MJGs "Comin Out Hard" was to southern nikkas, a local classic

no its not.

jay-z was levels ahead of 8ball & mjg. cmon now. an east coast equivalent to groups like UGK and 8ball & MJG would be somebody like MOP. i dont know why yall try to gas up certain southern groups on the slick. jay had actual hits and made too much noise to be compard to them.

a better comparison to reasonable doubt would be something like master p's "ice cream man".

 

[killa the goat]

7 DAY THEORY >>>>>>>>>>>>

 

[SubLyminalz]

Not even Jays best album.

Vol 2 > RD > BP

 

[PHamm]

fukk no

jay z fooled people into believing that shyt is a classic. Everybody that was around when it dropped told me nobody even thought of anything when it came out it. Jay z's ass kept repeating how its a classic and some people believed him

pretty much. i was around in that era and we thought he was Foxy's hype man for a while there. no one i know gave a shyt about RD until Jay tried to force it into classic status in the 2000s. And all these fatherless fukks ran with it.