Is Silkk The Shocker the most trash rapper that was remotely successful?

[NO-BadAzz]

Back then you had to achieve something to be famous

Now you need an instagram account, terrible fashion sense and a whore for a girlfriend and you’re famous

So “legit rap career” is pretty key. Silkk by any standard was a rap superstar, these new dudes are IG and YouTube famous at best

As I stated before on here, if you were under 8 in 96-99, you have no dog in this fight, you wasn't allowed to listen to this kind of music (in real time) when it was out.

The good thing about NL too was that they didn't really put out "singles" and get much radio play from their artists.

You had to be older, have older siblings, or family members to even listen to this type of music.

nikkas don't even know Silkk was a multi-millionaire before he was older enough to drink

I laugh and smh at folks in 2021 who try and rate No Limit artist and talent in 2021

In real time, No Limit and the artists on the label were the hottest acts in the game,

No Limit ran the rap game and had it in a choke hold, with Silkk the Shocker being at the head of the pack.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Wacka Flocka

He’s not worse than silk the shocka

 

[Playaz Eyez]

You don't get it. YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A GREAT RAPPER TO MAKE GREAT RAP MUSIC. You could barely call Lil Jon & Eastside Boyz rappers, and they put out great crunk hype music. In their own lane. Three 6 Mafia and their posses had a couple of great rappers (Scarecrow, T-Rock, Skinny Pimp, Fly), the rest were ok to subpar, put out CLASSIC albums n songs, brilliant shyt. It just fit. That's art

True. Subpar rappers can make dope records. See: French Montana’s mixtapes, Shawty Lo’s album, just like traditionally dope artists can make bad music. See: Common’s Universal Mind Control, Luda’s Battle of The Sexes and #IDGAF, and Eminem the last 16 years.

U willin have thug on there, never the flow.

All he does is whine and cry over nice beats. He stinks

 

[Wacky D]

people saying silkk regressed when mystikal came over, but he was always influenced by mystikal.

silkk actually got better as a rapper every year. his music just became hit-or-miss along with the other west coast guys that stayed when no limit went down to new orleans. no limit shouldve kept producers like k-lou and them around. BBTP wasnt a good fit for him half the time. his '99-00 material after they left was better actually, but he was almost done by that point. didnt have the gas for the solo albums anymore. then he'd pop up randomly every few years talking bout having fresh legs, only to dissappear again. the perks of still being rich and not having to rap.

I legitimately paid for his first two albums and I was a fan as a kid. I’m not saying he didn’t contribute to the game and wasn’t hot at the time. But as you grew up, did you really not go back and listen to his flow and realize how bad it was?

i went back and copped the 1st 2 albums as an adult actually.

you just said in your previous post that e-40 is dope. but silkk is supposed to be wack?? okay buddy.

the shocker is a classic.
i think "charge it 2 da game" is overrated by some, but its still dope and most of it aged well.

 

[JustCKing]

these dudes is kids.

silkk was one of the 1st slick-talk & punchy rappers out the south. one of the 1st down there to spit that flyboy chit too. dudes dont even know nothing about that in here. they just run to the same ole go-to verses that net nerds circle-jerk and joke about.

and the thread title is bullchit. REMOTELY SUCCESSFUL??? silkk was a major star in this game and one of the biggest pioneers that changed the game to what it is now.

This wasn't really warranted. Noyhing about Silkk was ground breaking or pioneering. He wasn't exactly this wack rapper that got over either.

Silkk, simply put, was somebody who was looked at as dope in real time. He was successful because he had songs that resonated with the streets, but also was able to chart. He was huge with females also. Those qualities made him a star. Silkk wasn't really a game changer.

The reason Silkk gets flack now is because people judge him by the singles, which often were the worst songs on a No Limit album. You can't listen to Mystikal's "Ghetto Child" and hear Silkk's verse and say he was wack.

 

[Wacky D]

This wasn't really warranted. Noyhing about Silkk was ground breaking or pioneering. He wasn't exactly this wack rapper that got over either.

Silkk, simply put, was somebody who was looked at as dope in real time. He was successful because he had songs that resonated with the streets, but also was able to chart. He was huge with females also. Those qualities made him a star. Silkk wasn't really a game changer.

The reason Silkk gets flack now is because people judge him by the singles, which often were the worst songs on a No Limit album. You can't listen to Mystikal's "Ghetto Child" and hear Silkk's verse and say he was wack.

no limit were the biggest pioneers for the south, and he was their 2nd or 3rd biggest star.
aside from the fact that he was more of a west coast ninja, how was he not a pioneer???
dudes on this board stay putting the pioneer tag on rappers that stayed local/regional or didnt make much of a splash. but silkk is the one who's in question?? nah.

your other points were good tho.
im just saying hes a pioneer. he helped move the needle.

 

[JustCKing]

no limit were the biggest pioneers for the south, and he was their 2nd or 3rd biggest star.
aside from the fact that he was more of a west coast ninja, how was he not a pioneer???
dudes on this board stay putting the pioneer tag on rappers that stayed local/regional or didnt make much of a splash. but silkk is the one who's in question?? nah.

your other points were good tho.
im just saying hes a pioneer. he helped move the needle.

Pioneer implies that he originated or began something. He didn't at least not in the ways you're saying. There were fly, slick talkers in The South before Silkk.

An artist can be regional and still be a pioneer.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

these dudes is kids.

silkk was one of the 1st slick-talk & punchy rappers out the south. one of the 1st down there to spit that flyboy chit too. dudes dont even know nothing about that in here. they just run to the same ole go-to verses that net nerds circle-jerk and joke about.

and the thread title is bullchit. REMOTELY SUCCESSFUL??? silkk was a major star in this game and one of the biggest pioneers that changed the game to what it is now.





silkk is better than everybody in 3-6 mafia.

just as good of an artist as juelz.

and is just as good as jeezy on some str8 rapping chit.

I was with you until here. He’s not sniffing Lord Infamous, Koopsta, Project Pat, nor Gangsta Boo. Would add Juicy J as well, especially back then.

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

I was with you until here. He’s not sniffing Lord Infamous, Koopsta, Project Pat, nor Gangsta Boo. Would add Juicy J as well, especially back then.

He's not a better rapper than Paul either. shyt him and Crunchy are even if you ask me

 

[OHSNAP!]

(long version)
Silkk did well here. He had some dope parts

 

[Wacky D]

Pioneer implies that he originated or began something. He didn't at least not in the ways you're saying. There were fly, slick talkers in The South before Silkk.

An artist can be regional and still be a pioneer.

like who in the bolded?? i dont think you know what i mean when i say that.

2. what are they pioneering?? you cant say that someone pioneered a region, if they had no legs outside of said region.

I was with you until here. He’s not sniffing Lord Infamous, Koopsta, Project Pat, nor Gangsta Boo. Would add Juicy J as well, especially back then.

lord infamous is a better lyricist. thats about it.
a whole album of him by himself?? nah.

project pat wasnt in 3-6 mafia.
i dont think all that highly of him anyway.

lol @ the rest of them.

He's not a better rapper than Paul either. shyt him and Crunchy are even if you ask me

youre just weird.

 

[JustCKing]

like who in the bolded?? i dont think you know what i mean when i say that.

2. what are they pioneering?? you cant say that someone pioneered a region, if they had no legs outside of said region.

Well, you limited Silkk to The South, which made the entire argument regional. What you said didn't go over my head. Its just something that nobody has ever attached to a Silkk The Shocker or really any Southern rapper. Eightball, MJG, UGK, Kast (specifically Big Boi) were all doing that before anyone ever cared about a Silkk.

I don't agree with the revisionist narrative that Silkk was some WOAT rapper, but he wasn't exactly a pioneering one either. He was dope for his time and was definitely a star who had his place in the game, but NOBODY looked at what he was doing pioneering. At least, not in the way you're implying. The other Southern rappers I listed, weren't pioneering in that style either.

 

[hex]

Sillk is not as good or bad as people in this thread are making him out to be.

I thought he was borderline wack but his shyt aged beautifully due to how many far worse rappers have came out since then.

Fred.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Lil Yachty gotta be up there too

this would be a pretty good choice if Yachty had a good career

Yachty’s music has pretty much been rejected by hiphop even with a major push and big times resources invested in him

 

[CrimsonTider]

Sillk is not as good or bad as people in this thread are making him out to be.

I thought he was borderline wack but his shyt aged beautifully due to how many far worse rappers have came out since then.

Fred.

Well answer the question of the thread. How many rappers with a legitimately good rap career are worse than silk

no one in here has answered this question because blueface is a 1 hit wonder for example